Originally Posted by ExAF (Post 1918605)

I really don't see where the fear is coming from. I'm content with what we have now until they come up with something better, NO MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKES! No fear at all. BTW...over 55 and only voted NO because there wasn't a HE!! NO option.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1918631)

The fear is being swa and parked and losing out on money with things like that C44 letter about 25% raise required to get money back, etc. has some petrified.

I see that the NMB is more of a focus than 8633 now.

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1917350)

The tiny number of pilots in that seniority range that snuck into the plug spots of a new category are an anamoly. Its an extremely senior airplane and even in a junior base, it only went to that level because no one wanted to be the plug (or even plug +1 or 2) in the first few months after it opened. That is about to change big time. There may or may not be one more AE where they go to anywhere near that level of juniority, but 2014 hires will in no way continue to be "able to hold 330B" for years after the dust settles on this little one off.

Bid what you want and if you get it, great! But I wouldn't be using that extremely rare and short lived one off as a baseline for planning anything in your life for years at least. Those few pilots are an extremely small anomaly.

Also keep in mind that there are always pilots returning from med/mil leave and other internal landlubber gigs that can pounce on anything they can "hold" as well. The company can't be liking the 330B being that unior, as it instantly raises a lot of people's salary by quite a bit just because 2 or 3 guys are sitting in that seat. Its likely that as soon as the seniority settles in that category they will easily displace 2 or 3 pilots instead of paying every instructor/FOM/etc 330 pay instead of ER pay. 3 displacements will be WAY cheaper than a significant raise for a lot of pilots. All they need is 2 or 3 pilots coming off leave to pick it, or perhaps a couple pilots from the 74 and/or rumored CVG displacements to pick it and boom, 2014 can't "hold' it anymore, and the current plugs in it would be bounced as well.

Again, more power to anyone in any seat they want and can get on any given AE! But I wouldn't plan anything on that example.

Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1918648)

North of 6 bil flowing away from the employees

Originally Posted by SFWB (Post 1918639)

Atl320B. Before departing on my trip yesterday, I said hello to the Atl FO rep and told him I was disappointed. He seems to have heard that several times and said vote how you gotta vote. Later in the day, leaving A-33 for next flight. Saw a Delta crew--the captain had a bike with his flight gear on it. I loved it and told him so. He stared firmly into my eyes and asked if I'd voted NO yet. Of course I have. I'm an FO. He and the F/O are SLC guys spreading the bad news of TA15 everywhere they go.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1918631)

The fear is being swa and parked and losing out on money with things like that C44 letter about 25% raise required to get money back, etc. has some petrified.

I see that the NMB is more of a focus than 8633 now.

Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez (Post 1918726)

To what are you referring? What 6 billion dollars?

Originally Posted by SFWB (Post 1918639)

Later in the day, leaving A-33 for next flight. Saw a Delta crew--the captain had a bike with his flight gear on it.