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11-17-2014 | 09:09 AM
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The Brown Dot +1
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From: 777B
I didn't read all of the preceding 300 pages and am completely new so I really haven't formed an opinion yet. I do have a question though, just how much bargaining power do we have? I think I have a basic understanding of the arguments here, but if the company makes a "good" offer that isn't up to par of what many in here are asking for, won't we just run into the same problem the AA FAs ran into where binding arbitration limits would be significantly lower than what the company is likely to offer before arbitration anyway?
A no vote is as simple as pushing the no button. Not that I am saying vote no at this point.
Our situation is completely different from AA's. They mandated a certain negotiation environment which is completely different than ours.
The issues currently discussed here have as much to do with past history and a survey that steered one to certain responses. This contract needs to restore and exceed contract 2000 in all areas corrected for inflation. This used to be a career. Now it's just a good job.
Can someone post c2k pay tables for the new guys...a contract implemented 14 years ago.
11-17-2014 | 09:13 AM
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Otto
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From: Turkish Pile Driver
As I understand, AA has some type of expedited negotiating agreement in place which drove the very fast binding arbitration process. From what I read in your reply, this is not the case for our contract negotiation. Did I understand your reply correctly? IE, following a no-vote, we'd go to additional negotiating rounds, and not to binding arbitration with preset benefit limits?
11-17-2014 | 09:15 AM
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From: 777B
As I understand, AA has some type of expedited negotiating agreement in place which drove the very fast binding arbitration process. From what I read in your reply, this is not the case for our contract negotiation. Did I understand your reply correctly? IE, following a no-vote, we'd go to additional negotiating rounds, and not to binding arbitration with preset benefit limits?
11-17-2014 | 09:37 AM
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Carl
11-17-2014 | 09:44 AM
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AA Unions current round of negotiations for joint contracts are bound by their agreements with AA when their merger was consummated.
Normally, in regular Section 6 negotiations binding arbitration is offered to both parties when the NMB declares an impasse. Either party can refuse. Then the 30 day cooling off period starts at the end of which self help (strike) is a variable option. At least that's the way I understand it.
Denny
Normally, in regular Section 6 negotiations binding arbitration is offered to both parties when the NMB declares an impasse. Either party can refuse. Then the 30 day cooling off period starts at the end of which self help (strike) is a variable option. At least that's the way I understand it.
Denny
11-17-2014 | 10:34 AM
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Carl
11-26-2014 | 03:04 PM
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11-27-2014 | 07:15 AM
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54%-That is truly pathetic. They were probably too busy white slipping 100 hrs a month... during an IROP/Holiday... overlapping EOM trips... when there is no manning. We are our own worst enemy. Except for Emirates. Happy Turkey Day Yall. OFG
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