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04-02-2015 | 05:00 AM
#3361
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Good point. I think it also sets a precedent as well!
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04-02-2015 | 06:35 AM
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Personally I like PS like it is. If our hourly rates appear to be less than AA's, meh. I'll take that nice pay bump in the first quarter of the year and get that 401k working faster, and perhaps a little less each month. Yup. TVM. It's real. But if the group wants to monetize it and smoke AA's hourly rates, I am fine with that too. But I do not think the PS should be monetized in section 6. Get our rates for the contract solidified, THEN come back and talk about PS.
04-02-2015 | 07:10 AM
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Then PS just doesn't count then? Or are you falling in to the "monetize it" crowd? I don't care either way, but you just cannot discount the fact that it is what it is and it fattened everybody's wallet.
Personally I like PS like it is. If our hourly rates appear to be less than AA's, meh. I'll take that nice pay bump in the first quarter of the year and get that 401k working faster, and perhaps a little less each month. Yup. TVM. It's real. But if the group wants to monetize it and smoke AA's hourly rates, I am fine with that too. But I do not think the PS should be monetized in section 6. Get our rates for the contract solidified, THEN come back and talk about PS.
Personally I like PS like it is. If our hourly rates appear to be less than AA's, meh. I'll take that nice pay bump in the first quarter of the year and get that 401k working faster, and perhaps a little less each month. Yup. TVM. It's real. But if the group wants to monetize it and smoke AA's hourly rates, I am fine with that too. But I do not think the PS should be monetized in section 6. Get our rates for the contract solidified, THEN come back and talk about PS.
04-02-2015 | 07:49 AM
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Exactly..... AA may not have PS, but most have frozen pensions to look forward to!
04-02-2015 | 07:57 AM
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As of right now we get 15% and you do not have to contribute a single red cent. New hires are gonna retire rich unless they are complete driveling idiots when it comes to investing.
04-02-2015 | 07:59 AM
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Are you counting the 15% company 401(k) contribution to our side of the comparison? Just be consistent. And if you read my post, you might see that I agree with you regarding PS. If it is going to be discussed, it should happen outside of section 6.
But out of curiosity, since PS is counted as regular income how would you account for it?
04-02-2015 | 08:01 AM
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Then PS just doesn't count then? Or are you falling in to the "monetize it" crowd? I don't care either way, but you just cannot discount the fact that it is what it is and it fattened everybody's wallet.
Personally I like PS like it is. If our hourly rates appear to be less than AA's, meh. I'll take that nice pay bump in the first quarter of the year and get that 401k working faster, and perhaps a little less each month. Yup. TVM. It's real. But if the group wants to monetize it and smoke AA's hourly rates, I am fine with that too. But I do not think the PS should be monetized in section 6. Get our rates for the contract solidified, THEN come back and talk about PS.
Personally I like PS like it is. If our hourly rates appear to be less than AA's, meh. I'll take that nice pay bump in the first quarter of the year and get that 401k working faster, and perhaps a little less each month. Yup. TVM. It's real. But if the group wants to monetize it and smoke AA's hourly rates, I am fine with that too. But I do not think the PS should be monetized in section 6. Get our rates for the contract solidified, THEN come back and talk about PS.
You and management love to cherry pick what benefits them and disregards the fact that our concessions are no longer necessary.
04-02-2015 | 08:09 AM
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I don't mind if they count profit sharing as long as they count full restoration of our defined benefit pensions and paper bidding with trips touching vacation.
You and management love to cherry pick what benefits them and disregards the fact that our concessions are no longer necessary.
You and management love to cherry pick what benefits them and disregards the fact that our concessions are no longer necessary.
Yeah yeah, I know, state goals blah blah blah.
Oh, and I have benefited greatly from C2012 thank you very much.
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