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05-11-2015 | 12:12 PM
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And that's democracy. I have no idea by the way if they are surrender monkeys or not, and I don't think we Will know for sure until there is, or isn't a complete package to look at. Either way, there is no doubt there has been several hard line candidates in each of the last elections that have failed to get the votes. Why? Is the will of the Atlanta pilots in line with the reps? Do the "hard liners" not vote, or are they in lesser numbers than we are to believe? If they are truly the majority, then this is where I think the DPA has failed. Promoting candidates (and getting them elected) while soliciting cards would have been a much better strategy to enhance the careers of those they seek to represent. Think about C44 alone. If they were to own 44, we could go down exactly the negotiating path that many here champion... Instead, best case by being disengaged, they have possibly delayed the results they believe achievable by several years at least. A victory at the table by their hand picked ALPA reps would have been the best selling point yet and have been better for the group while we wait for a change in our bargaining agent.
Carl
05-11-2015 | 12:24 PM
#4122
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05-11-2015 | 12:51 PM
#4123
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Look OFG, if you wish to only read what you want and ignore the rest, I'm not trying to stop you. Knock yourself out.
I've been hearing consistent items from multiple good sources. The C20 comments are backing up what I'm hearing. I've listed exactly why. Go back to your TV show. Nothing for you to see here.
Carl
I've been hearing consistent items from multiple good sources. The C20 comments are backing up what I'm hearing. I've listed exactly why. Go back to your TV show. Nothing for you to see here.
Carl
05-11-2015 | 01:04 PM
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Take it however you want.
No you didn't, you only read what you wanted.
More proof you didn't read what I wrote or what they wrote. Sailingfun is trying to debunk these rumors by making the case that pay has yet to be discussed because the reps say it's what they've been TOLD. However, my reps are saying they HAVE NOT been briefed lately in any substantive way. That's a significant disconnect and supports the well sourced intel I'm getting. Exactly like C2012 went down.
Say hi to Oprah or Judge Judy.
Carl
No you didn't, you only read what you wanted.
Carl
05-11-2015 | 02:22 PM
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Take it however you want.
No you didn't, you only read what you wanted.
More proof you didn't read what I wrote or what they wrote. Sailingfun is trying to debunk these rumors by making the case that pay has yet to be discussed because the reps say it's what they've been TOLD. However, my reps are saying they HAVE NOT been briefed lately in any substantive way. That's a significant disconnect and supports the well sourced intel I'm getting. Exactly like C2012 went down.
Say hi to Oprah or Judge Judy.
Carl
No you didn't, you only read what you wanted.
More proof you didn't read what I wrote or what they wrote. Sailingfun is trying to debunk these rumors by making the case that pay has yet to be discussed because the reps say it's what they've been TOLD. However, my reps are saying they HAVE NOT been briefed lately in any substantive way. That's a significant disconnect and supports the well sourced intel I'm getting. Exactly like C2012 went down.
Say hi to Oprah or Judge Judy.
Carl
05-11-2015 | 03:18 PM
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05-11-2015 | 03:19 PM
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05-11-2015 | 03:34 PM
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I absolutely read it. Are you so delusional that you believe everything you speculate is reality? OK, here are my thoughts: a contract that does not clearly lead the industry will not pass and a process mess like you describe will end ALPA. I will donate money to see it happens. OFG
However, I would comment, that the reappearance of some old guard and special committee guys is interesting. But, I think people flock to forums when something big is going on. Everyone wants to control their message.
It's good to get both sides of the picture. The problem with both sides, often, is that they are extreme sides.
I have wrote my rep twice. I am sure he has had ample time to write me back. I have received nothing, not even an I got your email or "noted." I won't take that as having special meaning.
Hey FTB, pick up some jalapeño kettle chips on your way home on tapatalk.
05-11-2015 | 03:38 PM
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"We have control again. We know what is best for you and your surveys are meaningless. We cut a deal and now we are going to jam it down your throats."
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