Originally Posted by Dorfman

If the vote has turned to 11-8 in favor of these concessions then it means the MSP FO rep has gone to the majority. I was told by a MEC insider that the swing votes were ATL FO rep DN, the ATL training rep, one other I have forgotten and that the MSP FO rep was a possibility. Evidently at the previous MEC meeting he would not talk to the MSP Capt rep and was asking the ATL reps for "direction"

Before anyone goes off on me I have been and continue to support ALPA. I think we can still make a difference and I will be at the MSP LEC meeting on June 1. However if these concessions are true and we are sent a concessionary TA I will vote NO. If the TA fails memrat I will be willing to work to recall any rep in my LEC who votes for the concessions. If we reach a TA and it passes well than the majority will have spoken.
These are unprecedented times and we all need to be involved.

Originally Posted by Flamer

Recall a rep. Great. That's like putting a band aid on a stage four cancer patient.

If what you wrote above happens you should head over to kinkos and make 1000 DPA cards to pass out. The difference between your idea and mine is: mine might actually change something.

Originally Posted by Dorfman

Unfortunately DPA is not a viable option IMO. They have as many if not more issues than ALPA. Also I believe we need the ALPA voice on Capitol Hill.

Originally Posted by DeadHead

Honestly, I could careless at this point. If ALPA is so concerned about the voices of the pilots they represent, then they should start listening to them.

I've written off DPA in the past, but if this TA sinks my card goes out the next day. I believe many share this sentiment.

Originally Posted by Raging white

Still waiting for you to put to rest your claim that Carl was lying when he stated you were a rep during C2012. What were your dates of service, so we can make some credibility judgements on both your claims of lying. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Falcon7

If you find out that he wasn't a rep during C2012 can we then make some credibility judgments on Carl?

Originally Posted by Dorfman

I agree. I have told my reps this exact same thing, 8 of them get it.i think ALPA is the better alternative, but if they dig there own grave with a crappy TA then it may be the end.

Originally Posted by Alan Shore

Not sure what you're saying here. Are you saying that FO's will no longer be able to bid to fly with LCA's in PBS, thus spreading the LCA trips more evenly throughout each category?

Originally Posted by Scoop

That is the kind of thinking that got us the "B" scale. It is very easy to pick apart almost any part of our contract besides pay and create dissension in the ranks.

I understand that we will have to compromise but concessions, really?

Scoop