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Old 05-22-2015 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
I'm glad you're on the front lines to protect the "unsuspecting and trusting". Thank you for your service to the pilot group. What would we do without your loaded opinions and conspiracy theories?

Your perception of your fellow pilots is sad (for you). Thankfully it's not reality!
Still waiting for you to put to rest your claim that Carl was lying when he stated you were a rep during C2012. What were your dates of service, so we can make some credibility judgements on both your claims of lying. Thanks.
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Old 05-22-2015 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NERD
How and why does Harwood have so much influence and power?
Just spit balling, but it might be because he is a dedicate and competent Delta pilot that was asked if he would do the work and is willing to do the work. He must be highly regarded by the MEC, he got elected Merger Committee Chairman. The Boston Meeting Minutes indicate a unanimous vote.



Vote for Captain Richard Harwood for Chairman of the Merger Committee (19 Votes)

He was also confirmed by the MEC as Strategic Planning Chairman.
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Old 05-22-2015 | 03:14 PM
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I feel much better now


Originally Posted by Falcon7
Just spit balling, but it might be because he is a dedicate and competent Delta pilot that was asked if he would do the work and is willing to do the work. He must be highly regarded by the MEC, he got elected Merger Committee Chairman. The Boston Meeting Minutes indicate a unanimous vote.



Vote for Captain Richard Harwood for Chairman of the Merger Committee (19 Votes)

He was also confirmed by the MEC as Strategic Planning Chairman.
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Old 05-22-2015 | 03:26 PM
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I know that some people find it no problem to usurp the pilot group's rights and responsibilities, but in fact it is the DELTA PILOTS who are tasked with judging any hypothetical agreement that is reached. And it's the DELTA PILOTS who elect the reps that would be responsible for delivering it.

Based on the last few weeks of APC, you would think we have system-wide reps election for local reps ongoing, and that a TA is available for "memory rat", but neither of those things is true.

The pilots decide, the pilots elect. Let's remember that.
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Old 05-22-2015 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Raging white
Still waiting for you to put to rest your claim that Carl was lying when he stated you were a rep during C2012. What were your dates of service, so we can make some credibility judgements on both your claims of lying. Thanks.
Shiznit was (edited) not a rep during C2012

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Old 05-22-2015 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by zoomiezombie
LCA bidding...Delta will still buy the trips they need and guys will still be paid to stay home but it might not be biddable (if true) which only helps a few senior guys in reality. If it is true it sounds more like when MAC charter flying went into PCS for all of us instead of the Bubbas doing it all with a late night call from you favorite scheduler. Delta will still have to buy guys off trips for training like they do today.
Not sure what you're saying here. Are you saying that FO's will no longer be able to bid to fly with LCA's in PBS, thus spreading the LCA trips more evenly throughout each category?
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Old 05-22-2015 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop

And to those who say "Yeah, but who knows what will happen to PS in 5 years." Why would I care about what happens in 5 or 10 years when we are basically talking about a 3 year deal?

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Old 05-22-2015 | 04:00 PM
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If the vote has turned to 11-8 in favor of these concessions then it means the MSP FO rep has gone to the majority. I was told by a MEC insider that the swing votes were ATL FO rep DN, the ATL training rep, one other I have forgotten and that the MSP FO rep was a possibility. Evidently at the previous MEC meeting he would not talk to the MSP Capt rep and was asking the ATL reps for "direction"

Before anyone goes off on me I have been and continue to support ALPA. I think we can still make a difference and I will be at the MSP LEC meeting on June 1. However if these concessions are true and we are sent a concessionary TA I will vote NO. If the TA fails memrat I will be willing to work to recall any rep in my LEC who votes for the concessions. If we reach a TA and it passes well than the majority will have spoken.
These are unprecedented times and we all need to be involved.
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Old 05-22-2015 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
I'm glad you're on the front lines to protect the "unsuspecting and trusting". Thank you for your service to the pilot group. What would we do without your loaded opinions and conspiracy theories?

Your perception of your fellow pilots is sad (for you). Thankfully it's not reality!
I am pro ALPA. However with some observation, I have noted that when one does not agree with the DALPA process or results; you are automatically label a conspiracist or non-serving red headed step-child.

It takes all kinds of people to run this process. My opinion is valid and I do not trust people so easily. Maybe you should step back too.

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Old 05-22-2015 | 04:23 PM
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There ought to be a second survey after the initial openers are exchanged. You wouldn't have to disclose the openers, just fine tune the survey once the company's wishes are known.
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