Exactly. Same for Seattle. We are only enjoying the growth there because Delta's EVP of west Coast Pilot Hiring (Brad Tilden, who occasionally moonlights as the CEO of Alaskan Air Line) single handedly decided to force our hand. But he can reverse course in a milisecond and our growth there could stop or easily reverse. That's why its crucial to undo the failed Alaska code share abuse language, particularly the "SEA shall never ever ever get back together as a hub" carve out, among other gaping holes.

How quickly people forget. These are the boom times, let's conceed on scope because it helps the mainline grow! I can't believe ANYone would fall for that again.

That was a huge concession from C2012 that we gave them that is easy to not notice because they haven't chosen to wield it yet.

exactly.

My FTB speaks for me.

 

You really think they would be asking if they couldn't staff them? Especially when how its written would probably replace more smaller "RJs" for fewer "larger RJ's" thus alleviating their staffing problem, at least to some degree? You really think this is a way to extract value from their stupidity and roll it into payrates or whatever?

 

IF true, that would probably pass…assuming there weren't embedded concessions in it at all levels especially "productivity" and scope. I'm not willing to sell hundreds of jobs in work rule changes nor conceed one inch on widebody, Alaska or RJ scope. Not one inch. Any change to Section 1 much be all positive and no negative.

 

9955 trial balloon busted so let's try 13955. Who says we aren't negotiating in public. And I'm with you....no concessions. Sick leave, PS, OE recovery.....stuff like that gets worse and I'm a no. Tired of bunting and never scoring a run.

 

We already know from the leaks that it comes with concessions in other areas like sick leave , scope, and LCA bidding...So you will have to decide if a payraise is worth other concessions. My feeling is that over 50% of the pilots would vote for that in a heartbeat. All most care about is higher pay..I personally think we should get that payraise with NO concessions at all, but I always in the minority when I vote on our TA's.

 

This was from the chitchat forum.

Definately an attempt to make settling for xx more 76 seat jets for DCI as they park 50 seat jets seem less horrible.

I can't believe our reps would even consider this.

 

Didn't want to start a new thread.

Planning to Jumpseat from Europe to USA next month on DL and have tight connection. Several times before I've paid my taxes and fees in advance to simplify things for the trip home and lessen the chance I miss the flight by waiting in the ticket line at the European airport. (I know I can't list for the Jumpseat until departing from the European airport, and I know as OAL I must ride in a cabin seat atm.)

But, at two USA airport ticket counters (DL mainline) in past week, I've been met with blank stares and their calls to the internal help lines have been useless. I've done this at least 5 times before (admittedly last time was over 2 years ago) and don't understand why the special services/ticket folks are no longer familiar with this?

Can anyone help with a DL computer reference on the procedure? I'd provide the star code, file reference, or whatever you call it, to the next agent and try again.

PMs welcome if you don't want to post here....thanks.

 

As applicable a statement going into C2012 and, arguably, before that... Curious what your reaction would have been had someone posted likewise as you prepared to vote back then.

Who owns yours?

 

Throttle back a little. I have talked to a lot of newhires that have said they wouldn't mind flying domestic for awhile before going on TOE so that they could get comfortable in the airplane. I don't think that a bad thing. I still find it refreshing despite your condescension. Like someone else was saying in another post, what is good for YOU might not be good for ME or for someone else. It's not always about the money.

 

How many automatic no votes do you have? Just curious.



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