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Amish Pilot 06-09-2015 08:11 AM

Hell No!!!
 
Put me in the Vote No Camp!:mad: What a POS....

Tool! Go back to your 4 floor hole and stop posting your propaganda BS.

Ferd149 06-09-2015 08:11 AM

I don't think they LOATH us.......(I worked for that company:D)

But no, it won't be the same relationship going forward. The company won't just roll over now out of a fear other groups will unionize.

It won't be as easy as Jerry thinks it will, but it looks like it needs to be done.

Ferd

Flavio340 06-09-2015 08:12 AM

2nd year A320 F/O comparison
 
Here is the rough math for a 2nd year A320 F/O: Assumes 72 credit hours month average. Current 104X72X12= 89,856. PS 89856X20%= 17971. Total= 107827.

TA as of 1/1/16: 104X14%= 118.56X72X12= 102,435. PS 102435X10%= 10243+102435= 112,678

107827/112678= 0.0438 or 4.38% raise at 1/1/16

p3flteng 06-09-2015 08:12 AM

Does anyone think that we need to recall the Negotiating Committee?

I am wondering if they are to cozy with the company negotiators and were played, or maybe they are burned out, or whatever, but this TA is an epic historical fail...

And would it be better to get some fresh blood in there?

Not quite ready to drop a DPA card yet, still have plenty of the process to play out, and hopefully we(Dalpa) can get this right...

(But I can see how plenty of guys would be thinking about DPA over this.)

Commando 06-09-2015 08:13 AM

Not impressed at all. 14% pay raise? Should be 24% Jan. 01 2016.

Needs to be Voted Down on this alone.

nwaf16dude 06-09-2015 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by DALFA (Post 1899277)
The smart thing here would be for the MEC to vote NO and send it right back instead of wasting the next 2 months trying to get pilots to vote yes to something that is clearly NOT a very good TA. But then again what do I know? I'm not a Delta pilot.

Based on what I'm hearing I doubt that will happen. This negotiation was totally micromanaged by the MEC. The NC had very little authority to make any decision without running back to the MEC for direction. Therefore, they can't reject the TA without looking like a bunch of amateurs. It will be sent out to us for a vote, and there will be a big push from the MEC minority for us to vote it down.

uboatdriver 06-09-2015 08:14 AM

http://m.cadillac.com/ats-luxury-sport-sedan.html

$33,215 base MSRP

SharpestTool 06-09-2015 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by Commando (Post 1899307)
Not impressed at all. 14% pay raise? Should be 24% Jan. 01 2016.

Needs to be Voted Down on this alone.

Good luck with that one. Mediation board is laughing at you.

p3flteng 06-09-2015 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 1899299)
I think it's too late for the reps. The gave their approval (what ever that vote was) to TA it.

It's up to us now:mad:

I emailed them 3 days ago with the same sentiments of no concessions.

When you say the reps just gave their approval, you mean they just voted to send it to Mem Rat?
Are you there?

and if so WHO voted for What?

SayAlt 06-09-2015 08:17 AM

DAL

Executive Compensation

Name/Title..............................2010..........2011............2012............2013..........2014
Richard H. Anderson CEO..........8,041,271.....8,854,554....12,575,572 .....14,375,902....17,589,867
Paul A. Jacobson EVP & CFO..........................................2,351 ,477.......4,408,507......4,665,125
Edward H. Bastian President......4,683,534.....5,061,432.....7,122,4 97.......8,845,206......9,009,330
Glen W. Hauenstein VP.............2,455,152.....2,782,027.....4,742,0 31.......5,123,516......5,711,769

Total.................................15,179,957.. 16,698,013.....26,791,577...32,753,131...36,976,09 1



Has your salary doubled every few years?? Their's has. :rolleyes:

DAL Delta Air Lines Inc Executive Compensation


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