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06-09-2015 | 11:02 AM
#6671
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06-09-2015 | 11:03 AM
#6672
veut gagner à la loterie
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From: Light Chop
But I'm rather melancholy about the whole thing, I think it will pass unless all hell breaks loose in the next few hours. I was stunned the CDO thing got shot down the way it did a few months back, I guess that could happen again.
06-09-2015 | 11:06 AM
#6674
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Solid TA? It is very simple the reason Delta is making money is because of good decision making and a nice reduction in employee costs in 2005. Why should we not go to 2004 pay on jan 1 without having to give up stuff. The money only comes out of the profit that our pay cut created.
06-09-2015 | 11:07 AM
#6675
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What did you all expect? AA +20? That ain't happening in any universe. We ended up with AA +15. Damn, that isn't enough?
Actually I'm waiting for one of you to say "that isn't true, PS isn't guaranteed." Which I will say sure is according to everyone who says 8,0,3,3. The only way that happens is if we have over 6 billion in profit like 2014. Then they forget that the remaining 11% of PS pays out. ADD it up. AA +15%.
Can't have it both ways. Insisting profits are here forever and not account for the PS in total compensation.
If this is rejected we continue down the path, fine. Next March we have an appointment with the NMB. They will laugh when we say AA +15% just ain't enough. You better drop the crack pipe if you think an iceberg isn't part of that future.
NMB can do math boys and girls. They understand TVM as well. They really don't like Poo Monkeys who play with gasoline cans and matches.
Actually I'm waiting for one of you to say "that isn't true, PS isn't guaranteed." Which I will say sure is according to everyone who says 8,0,3,3. The only way that happens is if we have over 6 billion in profit like 2014. Then they forget that the remaining 11% of PS pays out. ADD it up. AA +15%.
Can't have it both ways. Insisting profits are here forever and not account for the PS in total compensation.
If this is rejected we continue down the path, fine. Next March we have an appointment with the NMB. They will laugh when we say AA +15% just ain't enough. You better drop the crack pipe if you think an iceberg isn't part of that future.
NMB can do math boys and girls. They understand TVM as well. They really don't like Poo Monkeys who play with gasoline cans and matches.
06-09-2015 | 11:08 AM
#6676
Line Holder
Joined: Jun 2015
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From: MD88/90 CA
The company has its NEEDS, and more than enough cash to pay for them. It has some self-induced problems that I'm under no obligation to fix for them at my/my family's own expense. The company also has a shocking arrogance (and in my opinion, ignorance) to throw $5B to Wall Street, and this POS to us. It's a sellers market, and we're in no hurry to offer discounts. Offer a fair contract and I'm happy to join forces and kick some buttox in this industry.
The middle of your quote, sir, says it all. Well, almost.
06-09-2015 | 11:09 AM
#6678
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From: LAX ERA
Not happening for a very good and valid reason. This board represents the minority. Nothing plausible here can and will garner support. The majority of pilots are pragmatic and unemotional thinkers, unlike here. This is an echo chamber for the minority to vent and espouse irrational positions that are far detached from reality. The majority of pilots can do math, unlike here. TVM is an understood concept, rejected here. The majority understands the process of section 6 negotiations, lost in ignorance here.
Step out of the bubble.
Step out of the bubble.
06-09-2015 | 11:10 AM
#6679
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Not happening for a very good and valid reason. This board represents the minority. Nothing plausible here can and will garner support. The majority of pilots are pragmatic and unemotional thinkers, unlike here. This is an echo chamber for the minority to vent and espouse irrational positions that are far detached from reality. The majority of pilots can do math, unlike here. TVM is an understood concept, rejected here. The majority understands the process of section 6 negotiations, lost in ignorance here.
Step out of the bubble.
Step out of the bubble.
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