Details on Delta TA
#7291
Runs with scissors
Joined: Dec 2009
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From: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
You are correct. Let's say pilot 1 wants trip A. Trip A does not get awarded because it is with a LCA. Pilot 1 now has to get trip B. Pilot 2 wanted trip B and would have received it under the old contract but must now settle for trip C. It continues down the line so it affects all pilots in a category.
It's going to mean less lines, because 75% of the LCA trips won't be awarded as F/O lines, which means the guys who are just above the reserve point are going back onto reserve, which will lead to more pilots being on reserve, which means FEWER Green Slips for all the F/O's.
So, this kills 3 birds with one stone! (did Chuck Norris throw it?)

Less Manning, Less Pay, and Less 'good trips' gone for all but the top 25% F/O's!
No, wait, Chuck Norris killed two stones with one bird!
#7292
New Hire
Joined: Jun 2015
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From the chitchat forum. But someone here said it's not true. Hard to pin it down but I'm getting a bad vibe in some of the finer details.
Where is the chitchat forum? Where can we find more information online? Pretty low of them to remove facebook posts!
#7293
From the chitchat forum. But someone here said it's not true. Hard to pin it down but I'm getting a bad vibe in some of the finer details.
And just in general too. DALPA Facebook posts deleted and blocked. Facebook rating deleted. Members receiving phone calls from ALPA attorneys. And some of the latter things I mentioned have nothing to do with the TA facts.
Disturbing.
And just in general too. DALPA Facebook posts deleted and blocked. Facebook rating deleted. Members receiving phone calls from ALPA attorneys. And some of the latter things I mentioned have nothing to do with the TA facts.
Disturbing.
Third party verification... I can't wait to find out how that's set up. You can bet it's whatever the company wants. It'll be like dealing with Comcast, UHC, and the IRS every time you call in sick. And YOU get to pay for the doctors visit! That is, if you like your job. Guilty until proven innocent! Makes life a lot easier for DALPa though. "It's in the contract, sorry, but there's nothing we can do". Maybe they can just set up a recording for when you call...
#7294
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 463
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Keeping medical information private (it has certificate implications) is a very high priority for most pilots. Not to mention the diminished safety (pilot pushing) of threatening/harassing pilots to fly "or else we will conduct our own audit/interpretation of what your medical records say". Further, there is deeply personal and potentially embarrassing info wrapped into your medical records. Do you want people rifling around there that don't belong? It's really insane this is being proposed and signed off by those who are supposed to represent and protect your rights. So many things wrong with this TA.
#7295
Denny
#7297
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2014
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#7298

Denny
#7299
Sorry man. Just saw this regardless of what happens with this TA. PS for 2015 (payable in 2016) is safe. The calculation starting in 2016 is where we loose up to 117 million in PS from current formula vs TA language. Sorry I should have been less vague. Hopefully I did a better job this time
#7300
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2008
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How in the HE double tooth picks does any pilot at delta thinks there is anything good in this TA. The whole thing stinks. Sick time verification via the brute squad! PS deduction funding your pay raise. Etc. oh I forgot the nickel more per diem. Yippee!
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