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Originally Posted by Pilotfo64
(Post 1904222)
So it's true. Another Easter egg in this TA. Now we're giving the MEC Chairman discretion to facilitate more outsourced flying cleverly disguised as Delta. And with MEC chairmen like we've had from Lee Moak to present, I think we all know how that's going to go. More proactive engagement at any cost.
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 1904435)
From which we can subtract any profit sharing we get under the current contract.....:).
Denny Ask yourself, why would Delta ram a TA through 6 months early ? Oh, it's not because there is an airplane order to place. Don't be naive. In my opinion, it's one of two things. Purely a guess. 1) to get pilots to accept lower pay for hopes of PS knowing there isn't going to be any. Delta mgmnt is well plugged into Wallstreet. 2) they want to buy Alaska with 3rd party and 3rd party won't engage with contract due. |
The funny thing about the E175 at DCI and E190 here, one is outsourced, one is ours:
http://nycaviation.com/newspage/wp-c...70-cockpit.jpg http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../1/1145119.jpg The funny thing will be if they bring the E190s back east to do one half of the shuttle and run E170s at DCI for the other half of the shuttle. |
Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 1904449)
Sorry I'm not the doom and gloom type. I will go with the company's prediction for profits the next three years. :)
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just flew my first leg since the TA-turd dropped. told the FA's in the van that if the turd passes their profit sharing will be cut in half and will fund our pay raise. went over real well...
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1904412)
They're an Atlanta based law firm founded by Michael Campbell who was also a VP for us, retired, then came back to handle these negotiations for management. The firm specializes in breaking unions and industrial psychological ops. Many posters here who came from the regionals know all too well the tactics they use. Specifically, co-opting Union leaders and weakening the target Union from the inside.
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Odd thing about the FO LCA thing. You have an FO getting GS #8, GS #9 in NYC73N. To get to the point where said FO gets #8 and #9, they had to have nobody available.
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Originally Posted by mark350
(Post 1904466)
just flew my first leg since the TA-turd dropped. told the FA's in the van that if the turd passes their profit sharing will be cut in half and will fund our pay raise. went over real well...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9t0snTfydw...nior-woman.jpg |
Originally Posted by Bounty Man
(Post 1904444)
So let's assume there is no PS. what about that ? I'm willing to prove to anybody if you PM me that we are going to be in a total market disaster over next 3 years. THERE WILL BE NO PS !!!. Calculate that into this POS TA.
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To be clear, unlike what slowplay stated, the LCA trip pull thing is NOT industry standard.
Only united has the 75% thing-- US has some but it's overall a different deal, and the AA thing has been explained to me several times but I can't quite make heads or tails of it. Virtually all other airlines (FDX and the regionals, too) are similar to what we have (with varying recovery obligations). It is a MAJOR concession that will affect all FOs as well as junior CAs. |
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