3B4 coal in your stocking
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#59
Regarding the 3B4 resolution:
I don't think anyone expects a 3B4 grievance to succeed.
I do think the whole exercise serves a useful purpose.
It illustrates and highlights the fact that management is not our friend.
It calls them out.
Its been 10 years since our union did anything like that.
Its long overdue.
By accelerating the non-contract raises in order to avoid giving the pilots a little 3% bump, management has basically spit in our face.
I'm glad they did it. It removes all remaining doubt about Moakism and "constructive engagement".
Now we know where we stand. Management was engaged but ALPA was the only one being constructive. We gave them everything they wanted for a decade. Now that profits are through the roof and they can afford to acknowledge our years of sacrifice and restore some of our losses, they refuse. They ask for more concessions.
I don't think Anderson and Dixon can write any more hearts and flowers letters about how great the pilot group is and how much they appreciate our efforts. Kinda rings hollow when they have just gone out of their way to screw us.
I don't think anyone expects a 3B4 grievance to succeed.
I do think the whole exercise serves a useful purpose.
It illustrates and highlights the fact that management is not our friend.
It calls them out.
Its been 10 years since our union did anything like that.
Its long overdue.
By accelerating the non-contract raises in order to avoid giving the pilots a little 3% bump, management has basically spit in our face.
I'm glad they did it. It removes all remaining doubt about Moakism and "constructive engagement".
Now we know where we stand. Management was engaged but ALPA was the only one being constructive. We gave them everything they wanted for a decade. Now that profits are through the roof and they can afford to acknowledge our years of sacrifice and restore some of our losses, they refuse. They ask for more concessions.
I don't think Anderson and Dixon can write any more hearts and flowers letters about how great the pilot group is and how much they appreciate our efforts. Kinda rings hollow when they have just gone out of their way to screw us.
#60
IF I am a pilot. What a joke. You try to pass yourself off as some type of moderate influence but now you just grovel in the mud with Purple Drank et. al.
Throttles - Idle
Rudder and Ailerons - Neutral
Stick - Abruptly full aft and hold
Rudder - Abruptly apply full rudder opposite spin direction (opposite turn needle) and hold
Stick - Abruptly full forward one turn after applying rudder
Controls - Neutral after spinning stops and recover from dive
I am sure someone on here can tell you what that is.
I am not going to stop complaining about the money. You idiots are taking money away from my family and my friends because you threw a temper tantrum. This lunacy will only stop when enough pilots decide enough is enough and they return to sanity. As a group we are throwing away money and it's stupid. I know you think you are some internet tough guy who stood up to the man, but you are just another troll who flushed money down the toilet because you acted like a baby. So no, I am not going to get over it. Deal with it tough guy.
Throttles - Idle
Rudder and Ailerons - Neutral
Stick - Abruptly full aft and hold
Rudder - Abruptly apply full rudder opposite spin direction (opposite turn needle) and hold
Stick - Abruptly full forward one turn after applying rudder
Controls - Neutral after spinning stops and recover from dive
I am sure someone on here can tell you what that is.
I am not going to stop complaining about the money. You idiots are taking money away from my family and my friends because you threw a temper tantrum. This lunacy will only stop when enough pilots decide enough is enough and they return to sanity. As a group we are throwing away money and it's stupid. I know you think you are some internet tough guy who stood up to the man, but you are just another troll who flushed money down the toilet because you acted like a baby. So no, I am not going to get over it. Deal with it tough guy.
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