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Old 07-07-2016 | 12:24 PM
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In my opinion an agreement at SWA is imminent.



No one should doubt they will use the UPS rates, pension, vacation, etc. to lead the industry.



Remember their hour is 54 minutes. So add 11% to their new 737 rate and that will be our new minimum on the 737.



How refreshing to see management foot dragging work in our favor.



Long overdue.



United--No concessions



UPS--No concessions



Allegiant--No concessions



FedEx--No concessions



Delta--?


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Old 07-07-2016 | 12:43 PM
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This is the reason I think we will have a TA sooner rather than later. I think the company would like to have an agreement before SW can raise the bar even more.

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Old 07-07-2016 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
This is the reason I think we will have a TA sooner rather than later. I think the company would like to have an agreement before SW can raise the bar even more.

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The BIG question is will our NC team insist and demand that we get an "industry leading" agreement out of management. We have already been told that management needs have been "addressed". What does this mean? Concessions?? Even if we lead in pay rates but give up work rules in the area of sick leave/LCA trip pulls/PS/vacation it will be a failure IMO... I hope my concerns are unfounded...
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Old 07-07-2016 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Viking busdvr
The BIG question is will our NC team insist and demand that we get an "industry leading" agreement out of management. We have already been told that management needs have been "addressed". What does this mean? Concessions?? Even if we lead in pay rates but give up work rules in the area of sick leave/LCA trip pulls/PS/vacation it will be a failure IMO... I hope my concerns are unfounded...
It is a valid concern.

I look for Captain Dickson to live up to his promise.

"Industry leading pay, work rules and benefits."

No word games. Every pilot at Delta is smart enough to know what industry leading is.
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Old 07-07-2016 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
This is the reason I think we will have a TA sooner rather than later. I think the company would like to have an agreement before SW can raise the bar even more.

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What about a me too clause like United negotiated? If SWA doesn't have a deal first we jump to a ratio of their rates when they do if they are higher.

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Old 07-07-2016 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
This is the reason I think we will have a TA sooner rather than later. I think the company would like to have an agreement before SW can raise the bar even more.

Denny
Absolutely agreed, Denny. The pressure is on in a number of ways.
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Old 07-07-2016 | 01:35 PM
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Given the constraints of our "re-opener" pay rates, I can't see a TA I could support unless there were significant gains in work rules, vacation, scope, and retirement.
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Old 07-07-2016 | 01:50 PM
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Given the constraints of our "re-opener" pay rates, I can't see a TA I could support unless there were significant gains in work rules, vacation, scope, and retirement.
This...........in spades......
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Old 07-07-2016 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Xray678
Given the constraints of our "re-opener" pay rates, I can't see a TA I could support unless there were significant gains in work rules, vacation, scope, and retirement.
I agree with this. Although to be "industry leading" in the areas of work rules, vacation, scope and retirement they woul have to be Big, BIG gains to our PWA... Unfortunately our opener asked for only minuscule gains in those areas if they were addressed at all...
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Old 07-07-2016 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawaii50
What about a me too clause like United negotiated? If SWA doesn't have a deal first we jump to a ratio of their rates when they do if they are higher.
Pssssst. Their 73 guys already make way more than our 73 guys. They might, maybe, agree to match the 777 to their 73.
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