DAL Class drops
06-05-2019, 12:46 PM
#3031
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Originally Posted by LumberJack
Some of the lack of hiring is due to new efficiencies I'm sure, but isn't it possible they simply over hired in the last few years to get ahead of the curve, and are now sluffing off some of the excess?
06-05-2019, 05:30 PM
#3033
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Originally Posted by BobZ
Ok im gona go out on a flyer and say the reduced number is the result of increased fleet reliability from MD retirements.
06-05-2019, 08:29 PM
#3034
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Wouldn't that actually help though? Fewer broken pairings and mission critical rescue flights to get the completion, etc.
06-06-2019, 08:39 AM
#3035
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I had this discussion with a buddy of mine recently - is it possible that the company saw this coming for the past couple years knowing that negotiations for our next contract were coming and they preemptively started putting the "squeeze" on us? In another couple months will the carrots start dangling about "we can increase your pay, more airplanes, QOL, etc" but we have to start giving up things?
Just a thought
Just a thought
06-06-2019, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Crown
I had this discussion with a buddy of mine recently - is it possible that the company saw this coming for the past couple years knowing that negotiations for our next contract were coming and they preemptively started putting the "squeeze" on us? In another couple months will the carrots start dangling about "we can increase your pay, more airplanes, QOL, etc" but we have to start giving up things?
Just a thought
Just a thought
06-07-2019, 05:12 AM
#3037
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The company has been following their fleet plan almost exactly. Deliveries are coming mostly on schedule. There is no evil plan. Delaying hiring over the summer just pushes more hiring into when negotiations actually start to get serious if we actually even get to that point in the next few years.
06-07-2019, 06:30 AM
#3038
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Originally Posted by Crown
I had this discussion with a buddy of mine recently - is it possible that the company saw this coming for the past couple years knowing that negotiations for our next contract were coming and they preemptively started putting the "squeeze" on us? In another couple months will the carrots start dangling about "we can increase your pay, more airplanes, QOL, etc" but we have to start giving up things?
Just a thought
Just a thought
06-07-2019, 07:31 AM
#3040
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Originally Posted by BobZ
Just resolve there will be no exchange of 'value'.
If a neutral or net + in all sections cant be achieved in this economic environment we really are dupes.
If a neutral or net + in all sections cant be achieved in this economic environment we really are dupes.
Any change in the contract should be viewed in totality. If it is a net positive we should accept it. If it is a net negative we should reject it. We would be well advised to make less emotional decisions regarding contract negotiations.
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