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Originally Posted by newKnow
(Post 2289500)
Trip,
When did you get hired and how did the merger affect you? Speaking of track records? How long have you been following B. Bartells union work and did what he did ever effect you negatively? BB hasn't done anything to effect me negatively. From what I've heard he's a top notch pilot advocate and you wouldn't want anybody else as your rep if you have to do a carpet dance. He has my full support now he's elected. It's just my opinion that 44 needs to go with more reasonable FO reps don't have to be in lockstep with the Capt reps but at least on the same page. |
Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 2289511)
This is not about the merger. My earlier NWA comment wrongly alluded to that and I take it back. This is about the approach going forward. IMO the current MEC tends to be overly militant. The old guard tended to go overboard with proactive engagement. JM seems to hit in between both extremes perfectly. Firm but reasonable using scientific methods. As do the 44 Capt Reps.
BB hasn't done anything to effect me negatively. From what I've heard he's a top notch pilot advocate and you wouldn't want anybody else as your rep if you have to do a carpet dance. He has my full support now he's elected. It's just my opinion that 44 needs to go with more reasonable FO reps don't have to be in lockstep with the Capt reps but at least on the same page. |
Originally Posted by Peoloto
(Post 2289518)
Wait. You think the NWA bravado doesn't work and say the militant approach doesn't work but then back pedal and say you support BB? In the same post...
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Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 2289511)
This is not about the merger. My earlier NWA comment wrongly alluded to that and I take it back. This is about the approach going forward. IMO the current MEC tends to be overly militant. The old guard tended to go overboard with proactive engagement. JM seems to hit in between both extremes perfectly. Firm but reasonable using scientific methods. As do the 44 Capt Reps.
BB hasn't done anything to effect me negatively. From what I've heard he's a top notch pilot advocate and you wouldn't want anybody else as your rep if you have to do a carpet dance. He has my full support now he's elected. It's just my opinion that 44 needs to go with more reasonable FO reps don't have to be in lockstep with the Capt reps but at least on the same page. |
Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 2289469)
I'll take back NWA bravado. Replace it with BB/Strong 12 style tactics. Very militant, very skeptical, yields little results in the way of gains. Poggi, Kern and Johnson are in this camp.
Meanwhile you have John Malone, and the CA Reps who have a proven track record of success. These are the type of reps I desire in 44. Not Bartel Cartel Storm Troopers. |
Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 2289525)
C44 peeps ask around. Plenty of folks who voted no to TA1 and oppose the old guard want the FO reps gone ASAP
There's no way we are going back to the Moakist regime. Curly and his buddies will just have to live with Bartels. The old gang has always been able to stack ATL LEC meetings. A council-wide vote is a whole different ball game. Johnson and Kern will win in a landslide. |
Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 2289540)
You couldn't be more wrong.
There's no way we are going back to the Moakist regime. Curly and his buddies will just have to live with Bartels. The old gang has always been able to stack ATL LEC meetings. A council-wide vote is a whole different ball game. Johnson and Kern will win in a landslide. Kind of ironic that the guy who presented the recall motion is one of the more impressionable and bumbling individuals I know. He tried to sell the failed TA hard. Just wanting to be accepted by the old guard types... |
Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 2289511)
This is not about the merger. My earlier NWA comment wrongly alluded to that and I take it back. This is about the approach going forward. IMO the current MEC tends to be overly militant. The old guard tended to go overboard with proactive engagement. JM seems to hit in between both extremes perfectly. Firm but reasonable using scientific methods. As do the 44 Capt Reps.
BB hasn't done anything to effect me negatively. From what I've heard he's a top notch pilot advocate and you wouldn't want anybody else as your rep if you have to do a carpet dance. He has my full support now he's elected. It's just my opinion that 44 needs to go with more reasonable FO reps don't have to be in lockstep with the Capt reps but at least on the same page. What percentage of C44 pilots do you think would have preferred Malone over Bartells? Was is so overwhelming that their vote for MEC Chairman was egregious? Like was it 100% of ATL based pilots wanted Malone as Chairman? |
I've flown with Trip7. He's a gentleman and a scholar, in addition to being a fine pilot!
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Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 2289511)
This is not about the merger. My earlier NWA comment wrongly alluded to that and I take it back. This is about the approach going forward. IMO the current MEC tends to be overly militant. The old guard tended to go overboard with proactive engagement. JM seems to hit in between both extremes perfectly. Firm but reasonable using scientific methods. As do the 44 Capt Reps.
BB hasn't done anything to effect me negatively. From what I've heard he's a top notch pilot advocate and you wouldn't want anybody else as your rep if you have to do a carpet dance. He has my full support now he's elected. It's just my opinion that 44 needs to go with more reasonable FO reps don't have to be in lockstep with the Capt reps but at least on the same page. |
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