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Hossharris 01-25-2017 12:40 PM

I can tell y'all as an outsider looking in, with choices to make, the airing of union dirty laundry and public bickering is .... disappointing.

iceman49 01-25-2017 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by RonRicco (Post 2287907)
Moakies? First, I think the odds of anybody getting elected on the Moak platform is near zero. Although there were some former Moak supporters at the meeting, there were also many former reps (several former North) and vounteers that were as far away from the Moak doctrine as you can get. I bring up the fact they were reps because until you have actually walked a mile in their shoes, it is hard to know what the job really entails.
Please excuse typos and grammar as I am in a hurry.

Who are the several former North reps? Initials are fine.

NERD 01-25-2017 03:25 PM

I asked also. I'm not sure what former North reps are based in Atlanta



Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 2288235)
Who are the several former North reps? Initials are fine.


newKnow 01-25-2017 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 2288289)
I asked also. I'm not sure what former North reps are based in Atlanta

Seems like you guys get ignored when you ask for specifics. ;)


Sounds like you are dealing with the same people who gave us TA15. :D

Hank Kingsley 01-25-2017 04:23 PM

Sure glad I'm paying 1.9% for this idiocy.

crewdawg 01-25-2017 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Hossharris (Post 2288198)
I can tell y'all as an outsider looking in, with choices to make, the airing of union dirty laundry and public bickering is .... disappointing.

This is my second major...we definitely don't have the market cornered on union politics. Lots of us newish hires have not been impressed with this schoolgirl style infighting, but realize these guys are a minority in ALPA, unfortunately they're the most visible/vocal. The majority, do great work behind the scenes and have no part in what you're seeing here. On the line, this political BS isn't even a topic of discussion.

Don't let this sway your mind on whether to come here or not. Everyone I work with has been great and upbeat. Unfortunately, there will always be those who will never be happy, as well as those who love the political game. Just remember, never trust a pilot in a suit...:D

newKnow 01-25-2017 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 2287928)
Simple. The FO reps voted for Bartels and an MEC admin that likely IMO the majority of C44 membership would not have supported over Malone. Violation of the will of the Council. Is it a bad enough offense to require recall? The Council will decide but at the very least I think it deserves a vote so I supported the motion to recall.


Trip:


Why would a typical, non political, regular line pilot care how their rep voted for MEC Chairman?

What's going to be the main difference between Bartells and Malone for the next 2 years, and what good will recalling the ATL reps do?

newKnow 01-25-2017 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2287931)
Received a interesting email this morning. Since I don't have permission I won't repost. I took no side in the vote. Now I wish I had at least for one rep it appears directly lied to me about his ties to DPA.


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2288024)
So is the following inaccurate?

November 5, 2010 Johnson donated to DPA $50
August 4, 2011 Johnson donated to DPA $100
March 8, 2013 Johnson donated to DPA $102

At a certain point after 2013, DPA stopped reporting financial information so we don't know what other contributions were made.

Johnson has a testimonial on the DPA website supporting their organizing effort.

Johnson’s DPA # is 823251. His financial contributions and testimonial are available to anyone with DPA website access.

Sailing,

Did you vote for the reps to get recalled last year?

Bucking Bar 01-25-2017 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 2288289)
I asked also. I'm not sure what former North reps are based in Atlanta

There may be some confusion between Reps and current Administration. I saw at least one current Committee Chairman, who was a formerly NW pilot a decade ago, voting against recall.

If I were the type, I could check his schedule and see if he was paid to come over from the ALPA offices and stick his nose in Local politics. But, that isn't my groove. He has the right to participate.

Bucking Bar 01-25-2017 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 2288353)
Sailing,

Did you vote for the reps to get recalled last year?

So, what good does it do you (and your friends) trying to get your list of who voted for what together? Intimidation? Retribution? Just getting some co-workers to hate on? What's the point?

I voted against recall, what's it to you?


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