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Old 09-10-2018, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Avroman View Post
Why bother at that point, that makes getting consolidation nearly impossible, time to just delay the last couple sims and checkrides instead.
Maybe the company is petitioning for Microsoft flight sim time to count towards consolidation? Smh at the latest FOU.
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Old 09-10-2018, 08:28 AM
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Dude. Do some nonrev travel and study procedures on the beach. You'll be fine.
This. Everyones so anxious to sit in a crashpad in New York or be number 30 for take off in a 200. Go to Florida, Paris or Hawaii while the loads are low. The next month or so is the perfect time of year to non rev to those hard to reach places. Kids are back in school and it’s between holidays. Come November forget about it.
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Old 09-10-2018, 11:26 AM
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This. Everyones so anxious to sit in a crashpad in New York or be number 30 for take off in a 200. Go to Florida, Paris or Hawaii while the loads are low. The next month or so is the perfect time of year to non rev to those hard to reach places. Kids are back in school and it’s between holidays. Come November forget about it.
I really hope you aren’t in management if you’re brushing off this serious problem by saying “just go to the beach.”

Consolidation clock starts at the completion of LOE. I have a friend currently on week 7 with 3 weeks to go according to OE scheduling. That’s 70 days, leaving him 50 to consolidate. Not gonna happen. Now he’s going to have to go back for another LOE, a jeopardy event.

His ATP-CTP contract doesn’t start until after OE is complete.

New hire bonus is not given until after OE is complete.

Min pay is better than most regionals but not enough to take vacations for 10 weeks and pay the bills.

So yeah, these new guys on the deuce are eager to sit in NYC. Hell, most of them are getting ATL/DTW before they finish OE anyway. That’s kinda what they signed up for. Stop making it seem like they’ve hit the jackpot.
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Old 09-10-2018, 11:32 AM
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Current wait for OE is at least 8 weeks and increasing on the 200. The company has been doing nothing about it from what most can tell, so I don’t see how the wait is going to decrease magically.
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Old 09-10-2018, 11:36 AM
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Current wait for OE is at least 8 weeks and increasing on the 200. The company has been doing nothing about it from what most can tell, so I don’t see how the wait is going to decrease magically.
there is a class of 7 check airman in progress right now for the 200 and they just had another opening for cr2 and cr9 check airman close in August and are interviewing for a November class.

Drug their feet yes but their doing something about it. Unfortunately none of these new hire check airman will be able to help in the short term cause the training process for them takes a while.
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there is a class of 7 check airman in progress right now for the 200 and they just had another opening for cr2 and cr9 check airman close in August and are interviewing for a November class.

Drug their feet yes but their doing something about it. Unfortunately none of these new hire check airman will be able to help in the short term cause the training process for them takes a while.
Did not know that but good to hear. With only 7 coming online what, sometime later this year? That might bump the wait down to 6 weeks.

The backlog seems to increase by a week every month or so. Soon enough we’ll be close to 3 months of delay for the new hires out of LOE...
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Old 09-10-2018, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by web500sjc View Post
More like 60-80 days...
What is causing the delay?
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Old 09-10-2018, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FollowCompanyRJ View Post
I really hope you aren’t in management if you’re brushing off this serious problem by saying “just go to the beach.”

Consolidation clock starts at the completion of LOE. I have a friend currently on week 7 with 3 weeks to go according to OE scheduling. That’s 70 days, leaving him 50 to consolidate. Not gonna happen. Now he’s going to have to go back for another LOE, a jeopardy event.

His ATP-CTP contract doesn’t start until after OE is complete.

New hire bonus is not given until after OE is complete.

Min pay is better than most regionals but not enough to take vacations for 10 weeks and pay the bills.

So yeah, these new guys on the deuce are eager to sit in NYC. Hell, most of them are getting ATL/DTW before they finish OE anyway. That’s kinda what they signed up for. Stop making it seem like they’ve hit the jackpot.
Been in this business long enough to know what is a problem and what isn't. Everything is relative to one's own situation, but I can say this-anytime this biz hands you a paid vacation-take the vacay.
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Old 09-10-2018, 07:56 PM
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Been in this business long enough to know what is a problem and what isn't. Everything is relative to one's own situation, but I can say this-anytime this biz hands you a paid vacation-take the vacay.
EXACTLY! There will come a time when you can’t take vacation!
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Old 09-10-2018, 07:58 PM
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Been in this business long enough to know what is a problem and what isn't. Everything is relative to one's own situation, but I can say this-anytime this biz hands you a paid vacation-take the vacay.
Sure, but 10 weeks vacation? Cmon...
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