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Old 10-31-2019 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by flynfish77
Averaged 17 hours per month from Jan 19 to date (NYC200CA) I was assigned half (first out) and picked up half of that....

Having come here to get my time and get out, safe to say that plan is not working. If you are looking for that almighty TPIC this is not (currently) the job that will take you in that direction.


Any chance that may go up in the future? And how many days off are you getting on average? What was your time to upgrade?
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Old 10-31-2019 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by md11pilot11
Any chance that may go up in the future? And how many days off are you getting on average? What was your time to upgrade?
Impossible to say if that will change.
12 days off per month (contractual minimum).
2 years and 1 month.
Honestly, a year on reserve with the tiny amount of PIC earned was a terrible quality of life decision and 100% not worth it. If I had 500+ hours of PIC at this point, which one expects at a regional, I'd have a different opinion on the matter. A huge sacrifice with little to nothing gained.
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Old 10-31-2019 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by flynfish77
Impossible to say if that will change.

12 days off per month (contractual minimum).

2 years and 1 month.

Honestly, a year on reserve with the tiny amount of PIC earned was a terrible quality of life decision and 100% not worth it. If I had 500+ hours of PIC at this point, which one expects at a regional, I'd have a different opinion on the matter. A huge sacrifice with little to nothing gained.

Reading these forums for a while for each of the regionals. It seems like no matter where you go you either fly a ton but the pay and contract is terrible or your stuck on reserve with a good contact. It makes it hard to chose the best option. If you could do it again would you still go to endeavor?
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Old 10-31-2019 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by md11pilot11
Reading these forums for a while for each of the regionals. It seems like no matter where you go you either fly a ton but the pay and contract is terrible or your stuck on reserve with a good contact. It makes it hard to chose the best option. If you could do it again would you still go to endeavor?
I personally would not come to endeavor again if I had the choice. When I came here, the compensation was top of the line with the bonuses (pre-TA), and there was lots of movement. Upgrades were projected in 18 months for new hires, and even less with prior 121 time. Now I’m going on 30 months with no upgrade in sight.
This place is just very stagnant compared to other regionals. The top 400 are never leaving and they take most of the captain spots in MSP, DTW, and ATL. Many of the other captains don’t have apps out anywhere since they are waiting for the DGI. Endeavor simply doesn’t have the constant attrition the AA wholly owned regionals have.
The quality of life here is good overall, but reserve times are very high and that will be terrible as a commuter.
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Old 10-31-2019 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KelvinHelmholtz
I personally would not come to endeavor again if I had the choice. When I came here, the compensation was top of the line with the bonuses (pre-TA), and there was lots of movement. Upgrades were projected in 18 months for new hires, and even less with prior 121 time. Now I’m going on 30 months with no upgrade in sight.
This place is just very stagnant compared to other regionals. The top 400 are never leaving and they take most of the captain spots in MSP, DTW, and ATL. Many of the other captains don’t have apps out anywhere since they are waiting for the DGI. Endeavor simply doesn’t have the constant attrition the AA wholly owned regionals have.
The quality of life here is good overall, but reserve times are very high and that will be terrible as a commuter.
Same. I came as an FO in 2018. I flew about 20 hours a month for 6 months and I'm buried on the upgrade list. Looks like a 3 year upgrade.
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Old 10-31-2019 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
Same. I came as an FO in 2018. I flew about 20 hours a month for 6 months and I'm buried on the upgrade list. Looks like a 3 year upgrade.

And that’s for NYC FO to NYC Capt In 3 years. Also was there a delta hiring stop this year and did that play into movement? Wouldn’t all this stuff come in cycles I mean. It seems like all the regionals at one point have no movement then 1-2 years later it’s crazy movement then back to none.
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Old 10-31-2019 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by md11pilot11
Reading these forums for a while for each of the regionals. It seems like no matter where you go you either fly a ton but the pay and contract is terrible or your stuck on reserve with a good contact. It makes it hard to chose the best option. If you could do it again would you still go to endeavor?
No. I would have gone to an AA wholly owned. Most likely PSA. Had I have done that, I'd be at American right now. We aren't the best place to be any more. We're good (in terms of a regional), but not great. I don't recommend people come here unless they really want to work at 9E or live in NYC.
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Old 10-31-2019 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by md11pilot11
And that’s for NYC FO to NYC Capt In 3 years. Also was there a delta hiring stop this year and did that play into movement? Wouldn’t all this stuff come in cycles I mean. It seems like all the regionals at one point have no movement then 1-2 years later it’s crazy movement then back to none.

Yes, NYC. I could hold any base I want at this point, but I generally get the schedule I want and it is good for my commute from DFW.

The first DGI people just started interviewing last year. There has been a hiring slow down at Delta, SWA, and FedEx recently, but that doesn't change the fact that the top 400 or so of our seniority list are lifers, that we hired for a bunch of growth that didn't happen, and this new growth isn't nearly what was forecasted before. The DGI hiring rate is hovering around 50% or less, last time I checked, and Delta insists on hiring high schoolers with Propel.

To give you some perspective on how quickly it stopped, they were still hiring street captains when I was hired in 2018. I am senior to the most junior captain at 9e, but he was hired a few weeks after me as a street captain.

Work rules, pay, maintenance, etc are all top notch at Endeavor. Career progression is non-existent.
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Old 10-31-2019 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by md11pilot11
Any chance that may go up in the future? And how many days off are you getting on average? What was your time to upgrade?
Back in 2016/2017 when we were properly staffed reserves got used a ton. I knew reserve captains that got 1-2 fatigue calls a month. That might have been the high extreme, and what we have now is the low extreme. I would guess it will meet in the middle at some point. But it's slow going here until the new planes start seriously cutting down the overstaffing

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Old 11-01-2019 | 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Casualinterest
Back in 2016/2017 when we were properly staffed reserves got used a ton. I knew reserve captains that got 1-2 fatigue calls a month. That might have been the high extreme, and what we have now is the low extreme. I would guess it will meet in the middle at some point. But it's slow going here until the new planes start seriously cutting down the overstaffing

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20 new aircraft coming this year may help slightly? I’m trying to understand With the CRJ line closing and only the 550 available where is the growth going to come from?
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