Zerosilver84

1475 is the min...25 hrs less than what you need..1500.. 1250..1000..

I had 1483 when I showed up years ago.

AirBear

For those entering the industry via the regional airlines. There are some big changes coming. I've seen some well researched numbers on pilot hiring in 2022. Here's what is estimated:

For all the B737/A320 and larger size aircraft operators: Estimated number of pilots needed AFTER allowing for military, Part 135, and Corporate: 9,000

Total number of Regional Airline Pilots: 20,000

Something has to give. Either Regional Airlines will have to consolidate, or be folded into mainline (not going to happen quickly if at all), or mainline will have to curtail hiring plans and as a result cut back schedules. As some on this thread have already stated, with insufficient pilots the 50 seaters will probably windup on the used airliners lot. RJ Captains will especially be in short supply. This is why Airline Exec's are crying about the 1500 hour rule. That's shortsighted because lowering that will cannibalize many CFI's and then who's left to teach new pilots?

Zerosilver84

RTAG did a post on this back in December. Looking at 8750+ pilots needed for AA DL UA B6 WN FDX and UPS.. In 2022

if I knew how to post a pic on here from my phone I would

AirBear

I thought I remembered that post but can't find it now. If you can link it I can post the photo.

PurringRaccoon

Our class had meeting with ALPA guys yesterday (first meeting during ground) and man.. those guys were absolutely pumped! - not sure if that's their usual state or not lol
They said the numbers are looking very good and pilots have such a good leveraging position right now. Maybe we can expect the regional model to disappear entirely over the next five years of so they said?
Made me wonder... if it is better to be in a wholly owned like EDV or a giant standalone like Skywest in this environment.

Hopefully good things come!

edv2021

Depends. Should such a situation occur, Delta will either decide they need us and absorb us, or decide we aren’t useful to them and bankrupt us. Historically, they have opted for the latter, but this is a unique time.

PurringRaccoon

Union reps brought up this exact point! But they were saying that Delta is heavily dependent on hub & spoke model and they can't get rid of us. So inevitable absorption/merge is what they were optimistic about!

edv2021

I think the idea that delta absolutely needs us and can’t get rid of us is overly optimistic. There’s a reason they’re keeping the 717s around and ordering lots of A220s.

I think it’d be hard for them to get rid of us, but I generally think it’s best to be pessimistic in this industry. Keeps you from getting complacent. Too many regionals, including delta owned ones, have gone under for me to have confidence we won’t meet the same fate.

Kforekyle

I honestly think the time is right for Delta to just absorb us. This is the only way they will solve the hiring/attrition problem in one shot

Zerosilver84

I agree...but just bring on the 900s and leave OO to fly the 200s in atl and dtw only.