New Hire Thread
01-21-2022, 03:50 PM
#811
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Originally Posted by Svfr
No, however the time between CTP and the start of class is usually just a few days and they require you to have your written complete before day one of class
To add, your not an EDV employee (Seniority list, training pay, travel benefits) til day 1 of class in MSP. The company only pays for the CTP, they don’t pay you at CTP.
01-21-2022, 04:20 PM
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Suppose I have a “friend” that has offers from both Skywest and Endeavor, and lives at a base shared between both of these airlines presently. Endeavor seems like a great choice with the flow and pay rates compared to OO, however, what’s the likelihood 9E survives the hiring madness over the next few years? OO almost seems like a “safer” choice to start a 121 career, or would I be misinformed?
01-21-2022, 04:55 PM
#813
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Originally Posted by Svfr
No, however the time between CTP and the start of class is usually just a few days and they require you to have your written complete before day one of class
01-21-2022, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Luck
Suppose I have a “friend” that has offers from both Skywest and Endeavor, and lives at a base shared between both of these airlines presently. Endeavor seems like a great choice with the flow and pay rates compared to OO, however, what’s the likelihood 9E survives the hiring madness over the next few years? OO almost seems like a “safer” choice to start a 121 career, or would I be misinformed?
It really boils down to your long term goals and what airline will get you to them faster. Both airlines will be around for some time to come.
01-22-2022, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by flywithjohn
Why do you think OO is the “safer choice”? They are canceling more flights as it stands right now because they don’t have enough captains.
It really boils down to your long term goals and what airline will get you to them faster. Both airlines will be around for some time to come.
It really boils down to your long term goals and what airline will get you to them faster. Both airlines will be around for some time to come.
01-22-2022, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
Canceling more flights…what about percentage of flights? That is what matters.
9E 805
OO 710
crew related cancels
9E 0%
OO >0%
Better?
Now for the original question - what prompts the OP to think OO is the safer choice? Both airlines will be around for some time to come. Again, the determining factor is what you want long term career wise. Neither is a bad option.
01-22-2022, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation
LOL OO has > 2,000 departures a day
Again, if the OP wants to give further information on long term goals and what they mean by “safer”. Better advice can be given.
01-22-2022, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by flywithjohn
Not on the Delta side, the OP is asking MSP which is primarily a DL operation. The other 3 codeshares are not related to this discussion.
Again, if the OP wants to give further information on long term goals and what they mean by “safer”. Better advice can be given.
Again, if the OP wants to give further information on long term goals and what they mean by “safer”. Better advice can be given.
But if you’re comparing company departures vs cancellations then yes you need to compare total company departures (all 4 partners) or it makes literally no sense.
I mean two weeks ago OO was having more daily cancellations than total daily 9E departures.
The size and scope of each company is VERY different.
01-22-2022, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Luck
Suppose I have a “friend” that has offers from both Skywest and Endeavor, and lives at a base shared between both of these airlines presently. Endeavor seems like a great choice with the flow and pay rates compared to OO, however, what’s the likelihood 9E survives the hiring madness over the next few years? OO almost seems like a “safer” choice to start a 121 career, or would I be misinformed?
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