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01-17-2022 | 05:01 PM

#771

KSCessnaDriver

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Originally Posted by Flogger

There is nothing management can do about attrition, short of a six figure annual retention bonus or guaranteed min 16 days off, that would make a difference in retention. Both are untenable.

Exactly, and it's not just Endeavor. Every regional is in this boat (some way worse to start with).

01-17-2022 | 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Casualinterest

Unless you specifically want to live in a OO domicile, I can't imagine a reason to go there.

the overlapping bases are at this point a toss up. (Dtw/msp). Upgrade is a lot quicker at skywest for the time being but it’s probably going to be similar for anyone starting in the next 6 months. Atl/nyc/cvg hands down endeavor.

01-17-2022 | 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Milksheikh

Upgrade times are meaningless. Within the next 6-12 months, upgrade time is going to be “how long can it take you to get to 1000 121 hours?”

01-17-2022 | 09:25 PM

#774

TransWorld

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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver

Exactly, and it's not just Endeavor. Every regional is in this boat (some way worse to start with).

Exactly right. A year from now, the regional landscape will not look like it does the first of 2022.

01-18-2022 | 01:42 AM

#775

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Originally Posted by edv2021

Upgrade times are meaningless. Within the next 6-12 months, upgrade time is going to be “how long can it take you to get to 1000 121 hours?”

This right here.

01-18-2022 | 04:02 AM

#776

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Originally Posted by edv2021

Upgrade times are meaningless. Within the next 6-12 months, upgrade time is going to be “how long can it take you to get to 1000 121 hours?”

We're going to run out of those quickly.

01-18-2022 | 05:39 AM

#777

TOGAwarrior

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Quote:

Originally Posted by edv2021

Upgrade times are meaningless. Within the next 6-12 months, upgrade time is going to be “how long can it take you to get to 1000 121 hours?”

In my best Jeff Goldblum voice, "you were so preoccupied with whether you could, you didn't stop to think if you should."

I hope the company doesn't force anyone to upgrade if they arent ready.

Last edited by TOGAwarrior; 01-18-2022 at 05:42 AM. Reason: context

01-18-2022 | 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by edv2021

Upgrade times are meaningless. Within the next 6-12 months, upgrade time is going to be “how long can it take you to get to 1000 121 hours?”

which is why I said for anyone hired in 6 months it’ll be similar..

if you want an edv base go there. you want dtw/msp, flip a coin.

01-18-2022 | 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bwings

Are all of the new hires still getting NYC? How long would it take to get MSP?

this depends. If you get the 200, you could easily get MSP in training. If you get the 900, it will take a bit longer, but I would guess still within 6 months. MSP seniority is dropping faster than Biden’s approval rating as the senior guys flow to DL.

All that said, lately most classes have been assigned 900 in training.