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Old 04-18-2017, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by prex8390 View Post
Is American really the bees knees of majors?
Maybe,maybe not. They do have enough loyalty towards their Wo's to bring them on board. All in all I kinda like that.
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Old 04-18-2017, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by prex8390 View Post
Is American really the bees knees of majors?
They have the worst contract when it comes to compensation of the theee legacies right now. Their fault for signing theirs first and not having a "me too" clause though.
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Old 04-18-2017, 02:34 PM
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If you want to get to Delta, you're still better off at an AA wholly owned. At least with the current market. Look at the OTS hire rate of 9E pilots. It's almost nil, because they'd rather poach other carriers. You are more likely to get into Delta OTS from an AA regional than you are from 9E.
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Old 04-18-2017, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey View Post
I'd encourage anyone with ambitions to be a major airline pilot to go with the flow. You can always pursue other majors while waiting your call from AA. No-brainer.
And if guys do for a couple classes, Delta would finally do something for you here.

You guys are probably 2 months of nearly empty classes for retention overhaul, 2 additional months for a flow.
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Old 04-18-2017, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Kforekyle View Post
All the fo's that I fly with are second-guessing the decision to come here. Every pilot that I talk with says that a flow is on the top of the list of the things they would like to see in the near future. Several of the new hires are giving it a window of 1 year and if a solid career progression (flow) is not in place they will bail.
To each their own. Not sure if anyone else follows Gary Vaynerchuk, but he's got some pretty sound - albeit colorful - advice. Take 2 minutes and watch this:

https://www.facebook.com/gary/videos/10155199677323350/

Pretty much sums up what you'll read on any of these forums. I'm one of those recent lateral moves and I'll never question my decision to come here.
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Old 04-18-2017, 02:48 PM
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The other thing nobody want to talk about is our looming pay cut. If you credit less than 85 hours per month, the current proposal from our negotiating committee is no retention payment and a $19 per hour raise. There are a lot of people sitting reserve that can't credit over guarantee without giving up precious few days off and many people don't want to live at work.

This place was getting a lot better, but I don't know about the direction it's going. I can't in good conscience give out recommendations when there are places offering better. $2000 isn't worth selling my soul for the company's benefit when there's better deals out there for career progression.
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Old 04-18-2017, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JesuitValen View Post
And if guys do for a couple classes, Delta would finally do something for you here.

You guys are probably 2 months of nearly empty classes for retention overhaul, 2 additional months for a flow.
^^^^^^^ This. They won't do anything until the market forces them.
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Old 04-18-2017, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles View Post
The other thing nobody want to talk about is our looming pay cut. If you credit less than 85 hours per month, the current proposal from our negotiating committee is no retention payment and a $19 per hour raise. There are a lot of people sitting reserve that can't credit over guarantee without giving up precious few days off and many people don't want to live at work.

This place was getting a lot better, but I don't know about the direction it's going. I can't in good conscience give out recommendations when there are places offering better. $2000 isn't worth selling my soul for the company's benefit when there's better deals out there for career progression.
Lol, looming pay cut? Take a few bucks from your pay to cover the vacation cost and sick cost and you 401k match.

You guys are nuts.
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Old 04-18-2017, 03:13 PM
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Excuse me????? Are you management or union? You're selling some strong Kool-Aid. A pay cut is a pay cut no matter how you sell it.
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Old 04-18-2017, 03:17 PM
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You aren't even fully vested until you have 5 years here. Sick leave does nothing unless you take it all, we can't get bought out of it. Are they going to give us more vacation? No.

The cut is $5895 per year at guarantee. No pilot should take any pay cut, period. People thinking about coming here need to know they might be losing that money.
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