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Old 04-15-2017, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah View Post
Why would Delta want anything to do with us, we have pilots that can't even activate an iPad.

Delta would have to fire 200-300 pilots from here to bring us up, they can't take that hit. We are several hundred short, and mainline is about 1500 short of pilots.
Where did you hear/see it written that mainline is 1500 short on pilots?
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Old 04-15-2017, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta View Post
Where did you hear/see it written that mainline is 1500 short on pilots?
There is a 10-20% shortage at all pilot groups during this big retirement wave for the next 5 years at least.
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Old 04-15-2017, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah View Post
There is a 10-20% shortage at all pilot groups during this big retirement wave for the next 5 years at least.


"mainline is about 1500 short of pilots" implies a current shortage so forgive the confusion. You're speaking of the future one.


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Old 04-15-2017, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta View Post
"mainline is about 1500 short of pilots" implies a current shortage so forgive the confusion. You're speaking of the future one.


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Correct, if they are all staying till 65, then it is a future one, if there are early punch outs, then it is a current shortage rather quickly. Bottom line, is hiring isn't ending at any airline, anytime soon.
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Old 04-15-2017, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah View Post
Correct, if they are all staying till 65, then it is a future one, if there are early punch outs, then it is a current shortage rather quickly. Bottom line, is hiring isn't ending at any airline, anytime soon.


Early punch outs are certainly occurring. As of last August, mainline's projected age 65 retirements for 2017 was 265. In the first three months I've moved up 100 numbers. That's on pace for 400 for the year or about 50% above the expected rate of 265.

It's starting get interesting real quick as you noted. Hang on for the ride!


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Old 04-15-2017, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JesuitValen View Post
-you will finally trigger single carrier status senior regional pilots at edv wank to late at night.
But tissue stock would go up, adding to the business travel of tissue companies!
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Old 04-15-2017, 11:03 AM
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But tissue stock would go up, adding to the business travel of tissue companies!
Easily the best ancillary investment strategy ive heard to date. Plus delta would be down about ~20% of its pilots after their heads explode.

We'd need serious cleanup.
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Old 04-15-2017, 11:06 AM
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Good job on the analysis. It's very apparent you are already at DL, at least in your mind.

Originally Posted by JesuitValen View Post
When you say "i know there are holes" it sounds like you're saying "i don't want to hear any of them." So when you're saying "thoughts" it sounds like you're just looking for applause. Reminds me of a couple posters on here.

Bring everything in house gets a lot of cheers from me and like thinkers. There's a dozen ways to make it happen, and 5 or 6 times that in reasons why it won't happen today or next month. Delta would try a lot of little things incrementally before doing the above.
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I think it could work. Your plan makes sense, and is essentially a flow. But that seems to be a sticking point in the craw of DL (at least for now).

The key to it is scraping off the top for DL, not the middle nor the bottom. We have folks here now who don't want to move on, and they would have to retire out for this plan to be effective. And then there's the group of pilots who already got the double no. What to do with them?

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So here's a pipe dream but hear me out..

Why wouldn't bringing all the flying in house via a fence work?

Thoughts?
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Old 04-15-2017, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight View Post
Good job on the analysis. It's very apparent you are already at DL, at least in your mind.
I have now and always will cheer bringing it in house
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