Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Regional > Endeavor Air
Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor? >

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?

Search
Notices
Endeavor Air Regional Airline

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-24-2017, 10:12 AM
  #15931  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Oct 2014
Position: 6 Train - Panhandler
Posts: 2,001
Default

Originally Posted by Green Needles View Post
Might I remind you that the proposals on the table will result in pay cuts for some of our pilots. You guys are seriously concerned about travel companions? You already can have them, you just have to go through a little more paperwork than SkyWest. I'd also like to remind you we have no career progression. Check your priorities.
Yes. I say that because in general terms, people only look after their own set of needs.
TalkTurkey is offline  
Old 09-24-2017, 10:13 AM
  #15932  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: the right side
Posts: 1,373
Default

Originally Posted by gojo View Post
A few years ago Delta created the new S3B1 travel priority. They gave it to Endeavor so that we are above all other Delta Connection and still below parents and retirees. SkyWest at the time had active Delta at the same priority as us S3C and the priority was date of hire. Delta wanted better priority on SkyWest, so they negotiated for S3B1 on their flights. Which is still behind active SkyWest and their parents. But it does put them above all other Delta connection carriers. I suspect that's when SkyWest negotiated for registered companion. They got it because Delta wanted something.
The one, very small, very very small plus, is that on Skywest we travel at S3C and DL mainline retirees travel at S3CR. So you do beat them on Skywest, but not our planes.
KSCessnaDriver is offline  
Old 09-24-2017, 10:41 AM
  #15933  
Lineholder
 
Joined APC: Mar 2013
Position: Death by Powerpoint
Posts: 447
Default

Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver View Post
The one, very small, very very small plus, is that on Skywest we travel at S3C and DL mainline retirees travel at S3CR. So you do beat them on Skywest, but not our planes.
No we beat retirees on our planes, just not Mainline employees with hire dates before us.
web500sjc is offline  
Old 09-24-2017, 11:18 AM
  #15934  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Space Ranger's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Position: Star Commander
Posts: 151
Default

Originally Posted by HighFlight View Post
If you are not willing to commit to your partner enough to move in with them, then why should DL do so?

It is very simple at 9E to get your SO on the travel benefits program. Provided you actually have a SO.

I happen to know that HeyOneTaco doesn't play FlightSimX. The fact that you know about it and brought it up tells me you are very familiar with it. Is YOUR significant other on your travel benefits?
Wow, how extremely noble of you to come to the aid of your internet boyfriend, to confirm for us that Taco does not play FlightSim. This forum is comical. It's the same cluster of idiots and their ramblings. All the more fitting that you guys personally know each other. How does that even come up in a conversation?

"Hey dude, are you HeyOneTaco on the internet?"
"Aww sweet man! I'm HighFlight, we run those forums!"
"Yeah dude!"
"Sweet man"
"Alright, bye"

I think having more travel benefits for family members or significant others is something of importance to me. It would be nice if my brother, who is in college and broke, could at least travel at some s3b46 priority when trying to get home for Thanksgiving and Christmas.

And who are you to say what I deem important or not. You don't want to take a paycut for crediting less than 83 hours? Tough for you. I credit more than that, so I don't care about your needs, just as you don't care about mine. Stop trying to white knight yourself into thinking you aren't looking out for only your own needs just like everyone else. Thanks for trying to tell me what I should prioritize, but I'll be okay without your assistance.
Space Ranger is offline  
Old 09-24-2017, 11:37 AM
  #15935  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 896
Default

Originally Posted by Space Ranger View Post
Wow, how extremely noble of you to come to the aid of your internet boyfriend, to confirm for us that Taco does not play FlightSim. This forum is comical. It's the same cluster of idiots and their ramblings. All the more fitting that you guys personally know each other. How does that even come up in a conversation?

"Hey dude, are you HeyOneTaco on the internet?"
"Aww sweet man! I'm HighFlight, we run those forums!"
"Yeah dude!"
"Sweet man"
"Alright, bye"

I think having more travel benefits for family members or significant others is something of importance to me. It would be nice if my brother, who is in college and broke, could at least travel at some s3b46 priority when trying to get home for Thanksgiving and Christmas.

And who are you to say what I deem important or not. You don't want to take a paycut for crediting less than 83 hours? Tough for you. I credit more than that, so I don't care about your needs, just as you don't care about mine. Stop trying to white knight yourself into thinking you aren't looking out for only your own needs just like everyone else. Thanks for trying to tell me what I should prioritize, but I'll be okay without your assistance.
We'll maybe you should just buy a ticket for your broke brother with all the extra hours you credit. In terms of priority for negotiations, pay, career progression, 401k, sick and vacation improvements, reserve work rules are all far more important than letting anyone be your travel companion. You do need assistance with prioritization if you can't see that. What would you rather get? More pay, a job at Delta, more money in your 401k, the ability to call off more than one trip per year paid? Or be able to list your brother? Come on man, quit being so selfish. There are a lot better things to be pulling for that benefit everyone, not just your broke brother.
Green Needles is offline  
Old 09-24-2017, 12:03 PM
  #15936  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 186
Default

Originally Posted by Green Needles View Post
Might I remind you that the proposals on the table will result in pay cuts for some of our pilots. You guys are seriously concerned about travel companions? You already can have them, you just have to go through a little more paperwork than SkyWest. I'd also like to remind you we have no career progression. Check your priorities.
It's a 1595 page topic. Are pay rates the only subject we're allowed to discuss?
greenroute is offline  
Old 09-24-2017, 12:29 PM
  #15937  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,544
Default

Originally Posted by greenroute View Post
Why are unmarried people not entitled to have someone on their flight benefits? It only seems fair that if someone who is married gets to have their spouse on there, anyone should get to choose one friend/significant other/whatever to have on there. Just the fact that someone is married gets them better benefits than me and the union negotiated for that?
I have kids, therefore I have even more people on my benefits. Should that be factored into the equation?
Adopt your friends, I guess. That’ll get them travel
Iceberg is offline  
Old 09-24-2017, 12:48 PM
  #15938  
Gets Weekends Off
 
FreightWasScary's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2015
Position: CA
Posts: 170
Default

Originally Posted by Space Ranger View Post
Wow, how extremely noble of you to come to the aid of your internet boyfriend, to confirm for us that Taco does not play FlightSim. This forum is comical. It's the same cluster of idiots and their ramblings. All the more fitting that you guys personally know each other. How does that even come up in a conversation?

"Hey dude, are you HeyOneTaco on the internet?"
"Aww sweet man! I'm HighFlight, we run those forums!"
"Yeah dude!"
"Sweet man"
"Alright, bye"

I think having more travel benefits for family members or significant others is something of importance to me. It would be nice if my brother, who is in college and broke, could at least travel at some s3b46 priority when trying to get home for Thanksgiving and Christmas.

And who are you to say what I deem important or not. You don't want to take a paycut for crediting less than 83 hours? Tough for you. I credit more than that, so I don't care about your needs, just as you don't care about mine. Stop trying to white knight yourself into thinking you aren't looking out for only your own needs just like everyone else. Thanks for trying to tell me what I should prioritize, but I'll be okay without your assistance.

Common Buzz I told you weeks ago that woody never liked you. I’m a Reserve CA that credits 75 hours. So tell me why I should take a pay cut or pick anything up with my 11 days off....? The fact that our negotiations have come down to anyone taking a pay cut in 2017 is laughable.
FreightWasScary is offline  
Old 09-24-2017, 01:40 PM
  #15939  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 2,559
Default

If you go back and read what I said one more time, you will see I never said that. In fact, SOs ARE allowed travel benefits, not just married people. The rules are what they are, don't shoot the messenger.

Employees' kids and parents are allowed to fly too. Hopefully this doesn't upset people who think it's unfair if they don't have kids as well.


Originally Posted by greenroute View Post
Why are unmarried people not entitled to have someone on their flight benefits? It only seems fair that if someone who is married gets to have their spouse on there, anyone should get to choose one friend/significant other/whatever to have on there. Just the fact that someone is married gets them better benefits than me and the union negotiated for that?
HighFlight is offline  
Old 09-24-2017, 06:03 PM
  #15940  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Avroman's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: FIRE ALPA
Posts: 3,082
Default

Meanwhile the whole conversation is moot as the gate agent is making the 5th PA in the last 10 minutes begging for paying passengers to get bought off their seat since the flight is oversold by 6......As Xjet lists 4 must ride crew members with 15 minutes to departure to make it even more sporty.
Avroman is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
StraightShooter
Endeavor Air
124
06-26-2023 10:23 AM
WARich
Delta
11220
06-10-2020 07:42 AM
Crash
Major
3437
01-30-2013 06:51 PM
shua757
Major
2
02-24-2009 06:44 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices