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01-26-2018, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotMechanic
Also doesn’t matter. He is still seat locked for 18 months unless he upgrades. Everyone that has been here less than 18 months regardless of if they started before or after the new contract has a seat lock.
01-26-2018, 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PT6flyer
Until they release seat locks. Which they must to fill the vacancies.
01-26-2018, 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by prex8390
Are you off of OE? That’s why no one moved. You gotta be done with training before you move planes or bases. The people in the class behind you got what was left that was open to new hires.
01-26-2018, 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by prex8390
Are you off of OE? That’s why no one moved. You gotta be done with training before you move planes or bases. The people in the class behind you got what was left that was open to new hires.
Quite a few in my OCT class has churned out of their initial new-hire assignments before finishing OE. Some via upgrade switched base and eqipment. Some as FOs were able to change base but not equipment due to the 18 month lock.
01-26-2018, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Flogger
No need to be off OE to get a new base or equipment.
Quite a few in my OCT class has churned out of their initial new-hire assignments before finishing OE. Some via upgrade switched base and eqipment. Some as FOs were able to change base but not equipment due to the 18 month lock.
Quite a few in my OCT class has churned out of their initial new-hire assignments before finishing OE. Some via upgrade switched base and eqipment. Some as FOs were able to change base but not equipment due to the 18 month lock.
All this is happening because there are quite a few FOs at 9E who don't want to upgrade for various reasons-base, holding a line, equipment, days off, etc etc..
The company has no desire to do forced upgrades. Nobody knows hows long this will last, but once all the 900s have moved over and the XJT/ASA Atlanta pilot population is depleted, things should go back to "normal", whatever that looks like these days.
01-26-2018, 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotMechanic
I’m just talking about FOs, I can see them continuing to unlock for captain positions, but FO positions can just go to new hires. Less training events if they keep FOs in the seatlocks which is the point of it. Cheaper.
01-26-2018, 04:43 AM
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I'm not sure about seat locks for FOs... I was a 200 FO last spring, only six weeks on the line. 17-02 initial had me as a MSP 200 FO and 900 FO alternate in the same base... In the final I got the upgrade so that became moot for me.
01-26-2018, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Flogger
And to further stir the pot, a 9E sim instructor told me he observed training with a pair of new hires who would be starting upgrade training before making it to the LOE ride. Not sure about this, but he had no reason to make it up.
All this is happening because there are quite a few FOs at 9E who don't want to upgrade for various reasons-base, holding a line, equipment, days off, etc etc..
The company has no desire to do forced upgrades. Nobody knows hows long this will last, but once all the 900s have moved over and the XJT/ASA Atlanta pilot population is depleted, things should go back to "normal", whatever that looks like these days.
All this is happening because there are quite a few FOs at 9E who don't want to upgrade for various reasons-base, holding a line, equipment, days off, etc etc..
The company has no desire to do forced upgrades. Nobody knows hows long this will last, but once all the 900s have moved over and the XJT/ASA Atlanta pilot population is depleted, things should go back to "normal", whatever that looks like these days.
01-26-2018, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Flogger
The company has no desire to do forced upgrades.
01-26-2018, 07:27 AM
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Not yet they don't. And it will be UAL when it happens. (Not sure if DL or UAL matters to him)
Oh, and they do have a 200.
Oh, and they do have a 200.
Originally Posted by PT6flyer
Seriously though, Mesa has an ATL base and no 200s. If you leave and no one comes in we'll get more money or some sort of flow.
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