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04-04-2018, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Is there any cell phone provider that has good service in JFK? Verizon seems to suck outside in JFK/LGA/ATL, just wondered if they all do poorly as well?
04-04-2018, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
What’s your beef with the crew room memo? The policy is at least a year and a half old (maybe more), so if they put it out again, then it’s probably because crews are violating the policy. When people screw up, something has to be done about it.
Follow the rules on not sleeping there after hours, and you will have nothing to worry about. If people cannot budget for a hotel room every now and again, then perhaps they are in the wrong profession. It’s not like we are making $20K anymore.
Follow the rules on not sleeping there after hours, and you will have nothing to worry about. If people cannot budget for a hotel room every now and again, then perhaps they are in the wrong profession. It’s not like we are making $20K anymore.
04-04-2018, 05:17 PM
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Substantial? Sure. And yet, thousands upon thousands of professional pilots do it every day/month across the US. It may not be easy, but it’s the rule.
Imagine if banks had employees sleeping in the back, or Walmart employees, or your local supermarket. It’s a workplace, not a place to sleep.
Imagine if banks had employees sleeping in the back, or Walmart employees, or your local supermarket. It’s a workplace, not a place to sleep.
Originally Posted by Yumyum
Budget for a hotel? Like 2-3 times a month. Either way you look at it..300/month is substantial. If LGA authority didn’t give a rats arse about crashing in the crew-room it wouldn’t be discussed....and to the person who referenced the colgan crash because of sleeping in the crew room. Nope that was bad airmanship. Sorry truth hurts.
04-04-2018, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumyum
Budget for a hotel? Like 2-3 times a month. Either way you look at it..300/month is substantial. If LGA authority didn’t give a rats arse about crashing in the crew-room it wouldn’t be discussed....and to the person who referenced the colgan crash because of sleeping in the crew room. Nope that was bad airmanship. Sorry truth hurts.
04-04-2018, 05:32 PM
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Truth hurts....lol no.
If there was another incident, and the media found out that crews were still sleeping in the crewroom, the fallout for the company.....
FAR117, the Colgan crash families, Congress, etc, no one cares about the truth in the wake of "doing something"
If there was another incident, and the media found out that crews were still sleeping in the crewroom, the fallout for the company.....
FAR117, the Colgan crash families, Congress, etc, no one cares about the truth in the wake of "doing something"
04-04-2018, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Didn't one of the Colgan accident pilots spend the night before the event in the crewroom?
In addition to not wanting it to be a hotel, I would think there is also probably a legal reason not to have crew over-nighting in company break rooms. That said, I was non-reving through JFK a while back, and got stuck there pretty late, so I wound up spending the night in the crewroom waiting for a 6am flight. **** happens.
In addition to not wanting it to be a hotel, I would think there is also probably a legal reason not to have crew over-nighting in company break rooms. That said, I was non-reving through JFK a while back, and got stuck there pretty late, so I wound up spending the night in the crewroom waiting for a 6am flight. **** happens.
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04-04-2018, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by gojo
I agree, I can’t put my finger on anything in particular. But I feel the overall tone is more pricky lately. I’m not ready to say it’s a permanent culture change for the worse though. Maybe everyone is just getting burnt out from IROP after IROP lately? In regards to people sleeping in the crew rooms, I agree, if used on an emergency basis it shouldn’t be a big deal. But it only takes a few people to ruin it for everyone. I’ve never witnessed it first hand, but at times all the cots and chairs were full. People called it the red blanket inn. And there were stories of crew members walking around in their pajamas and slippers. Not a good image for the company if that’s true and someone gets ahold of it. I would imagine that’s what they’re trying to protect.
I'm not on property anymore, so I only know what was happening before I left, but that's how the sleeping in crew rooms thing started.
04-04-2018, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Is there any cell phone provider that has good service in JFK? Verizon seems to suck outside in JFK/LGA/ATL, just wondered if they all do poorly as well?
04-05-2018, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Arvik
T-Mobile has a dead zone that starts halfway down the jetway. It's amazing how accurate it is.
04-05-2018, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21
I must be missing something, you dropped a three day (let's say 18 hrs) and you picked up a 4 day for less total hours ( 16 hours maybe).... and you're confused about why you didn't get premium pay?? Is that the question?
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