Two Kings

It was worse when we were getting “Delayed 20 minutes, please make a PA” ACARS messages on the take off roll. That was dangerous. Thankfully they fixed those. The 10 minute messages are just a delightful nuisance in comparison.

HighFlight

What’s your beef with the crew room memo? The policy is at least a year and a half old (maybe more), so if they put it out again, then it’s probably because crews are violating the policy. When people screw up, something has to be done about it.

Follow the rules on not sleeping there after hours, and you will have nothing to worry about. If people cannot budget for a hotel room every now and again, then perhaps they are in the wrong profession. It’s not like we are making $20K anymore.

42jeff

Tallked with a guy during recurrent...said he was replying "copy" to the Apu nag message. He has interesting replys from dispatch asking "copy what"

Boats and Hos

We are adults and spend a lot of time in a 500 MPH tiny tube and this year, some of the worst weather in a long time. There is no reason to talk to us that way and treat us like children. The culture was suppose to improve with the recent contract but there it is again, that threatening tone. It's embarrassing and quite frankly pathetic. Not everyone is in their 20s and has to be spanked all the time to remind us who's the boss. Also, not everyone, THE FLIGHT ATTENDANTS for instance, make a ton of money to find expensive rooms in NY especially during IROPS. I am not saying it's ok to stay in the crew room overnight, I am saying there is no need to hit us over the head when all are all working really hard especially in the new co-base of NYC. Btw, I hope the flight attendants are smart enough not to sign a co-base agreement.

Swagship

*selcal selcal*

ROTATE. PLEASE CONFIRM YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE

There's a difference between finishing super late in NYC and trying to catch the 6am home, and using the rest room as a crashpad. I'd imagine part of it is liability and safety of having people in overnight, but there's a balance.

Cobase isn't the problem, schedulers are. Only airline with an NYC hub that doesn't have a cobase is republic and soon to be Skywest. Now if they try to add EWR into the mix...

KelvinHelmholtz

What are the schedulers doing that causes codomicile to be an issue? I haven’t had any problems yet

gojo

I agree, I can’t put my finger on anything in particular. But I feel the overall tone is more pricky lately. I’m not ready to say it’s a permanent culture change for the worse though. Maybe everyone is just getting burnt out from IROP after IROP lately? In regards to people sleeping in the crew rooms, I agree, if used on an emergency basis it shouldn’t be a big deal. But it only takes a few people to ruin it for everyone. I’ve never witnessed it first hand, but at times all the cots and chairs were full. People called it the red blanket inn. And there were stories of crew members walking around in their pajamas and slippers. Not a good image for the company if that’s true and someone gets ahold of it. I would imagine that’s what they’re trying to protect.

msprj2

Funny thing Bro
Your moniker makes you sound like a teenager. Obviously people aren’t obeying the rules and other crew members are complaining. That’s their right.

Mesabah

Didn't one of the Colgan accident pilots spend the night before the event in the crewroom?

In addition to not wanting it to be a hotel, I would think there is also probably a legal reason not to have crew over-nighting in company break rooms. That said, I was non-reving through JFK a while back, and got stuck there pretty late, so I wound up spending the night in the crewroom waiting for a 6am flight. **** happens.

HighFlight

Is there any cell phone provider that has good service in JFK? Verizon seems to suck outside in JFK/LGA/ATL, just wondered if they all do poorly as well?