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Old 04-03-2018, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21 View Post
I must be missing something, you dropped a three day (let's say 18 hrs) and you picked up a 4 day for less total hours ( 16 hours maybe).... and you're confused about why you didn't get premium pay?? Is that the question?
He may be, but it has nothing to do with loa 67.

Trip trades and premium credits are based on credit, at least that's sometimes an easy way to look at it. If you give up a high credit three day to pick up a garbage pile 4 day (and it's always been this way under this contract and its forebearer) then doom on you.
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Old 04-03-2018, 03:19 PM
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He may be, but it has nothing to do with loa 67.

Trip trades and premium credits are based on credit, at least that's sometimes an easy way to look at it. If you give up a high credit three day to pick up a garbage pile 4 day (and it's always been this way under this contract and its forebearer) then doom on you.
I think that's why I'm confused. If you drop 18 and pick up 16, you'd lose 2 hours of pay, there's no premium for working less... maybe we're missing something.

Wait and see. If that's the situation, then yeah, completely unrelated to LOA 67.
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Old 04-03-2018, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21 View Post
I think that's why I'm confused. If you drop 18 and pick up 16, you'd lose 2 hours of pay, there's no premium for working less... maybe we're missing something.

Wait and see. If that's the situation, then yeah, completely unrelated to LOA 67.
Well technically you could drop a garbage (16 hour credit ) 4 day for a nice credit ( over 16 hour credit) 3 day and get both the extra day off and premium pay... of course with every day being red reserve coverage, this is only theoretical, but would be contractually correct.
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Old 04-04-2018, 03:25 AM
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Well technically you could drop a garbage (16 hour credit ) 4 day for a nice credit ( over 16 hour credit) 3 day and get both the extra day off and premium pay...
You're making our argument with a different example.
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by theUpsideDown View Post
You're making our argument with a different example.
I read it as him agreeing with you and adding some more information.
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:42 AM
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Maybe it's me but was that recent memo about crew rooms a little off putting??? Threatening the very crews that fly in and out of places like NYC during snow/rain/Irops??? I didn't think it was really necessary. Never mind the crew room at LGA isn't the nicest in the world. You can sit in it for eight hours on RR just don't be in there at night!

Wear your hat, make your PAs, be on time, go fast, send your delay codes, but if we find you in the crew room at night you may be fired!

Probably me but the culture here, has it in fact changed?
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Old 04-04-2018, 08:13 AM
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Maybe it's me but was that recent memo about crew rooms a little off putting??? Threatening the very crews that fly in and out of places like NYC during snow/rain/Irops??? I didn't think it was really necessary. Never mind the crew room at LGA isn't the nicest in the world. You can sit in it for eight hours on RR just don't be in there at night!

Wear your hat, make your PAs, be on time, go fast, send your delay codes, but if we find you in the crew room at night you may be fired!

Probably me but the culture here, has it in fact changed?
It has gotten worse over the last two years or so, once we were no longer needed and classes were consistently full. Kept in the dark, treated like children. Do this and that and make your announcements.
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Old 04-04-2018, 09:02 AM
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Nobody is getting lectured for not wearing the hat or making gate PAs.

BUT - this latest memo about receiving yet another nuisance ACARS message is cringeworthy. I feel like I can barely even talk on the radio without CELL CALL blaring in the background with nuisance messages. My personal favorite is the message about how it’s D-10 and we should start the APU. Well, what if the APU is deferred? What ever shall we do? And when it isn’t, I am quite certain that it has already been started so the cabin isn’t 33C.
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Old 04-04-2018, 09:25 AM
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Nobody is getting lectured for not wearing the hat or making gate PAs.

BUT - this latest memo about receiving yet another nuisance ACARS message is cringeworthy. I feel like I can barely even talk on the radio without CELL CALL blaring in the background with nuisance messages. My personal favorite is the message about how it’s D-10 and we should start the APU. Well, what if the APU is deferred? What ever shall we do? And when it isn’t, I am quite certain that it has already been started so the cabin isn’t 33C.
Far cry from the "don't send ACARS messages, it costs us money"

Endeavor must have upgraded to unlimited family plan with Delta!
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Old 04-04-2018, 10:05 AM
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My fav is making a PA and having "Selcal, Selcal" blaring in the background.

The ACARS messages are not only a nuisance but a distraction from our primary task of just flying the aircraft. It will stop when there is an incident or accident. The FAA should stop these things but maybe they don't know. This is in addition to the "Creative" way they are getting around the FARs with regards to scheduling and this latest missive about what constitutes flight time.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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