Originally Posted by Flogger

The biggest problem with the way DC is managed is Skywest. As long as that bottom feeder is part of the DC portfolio, there will be absolutely no trust between 9E and DC management.

DL continues to reward the non-union pilot profession destroying bottom feeder animal that is Skywest. They even continue to hire these non-union pilots who have repeatedly refused to join a professional organization which contributes to the safety and government lobby of the pilot profession. They won't hire senior 9E pilots, but they will hire pilots who have undercut the wages and workrule standards of an entire industry?

DC management was complicit with Skywest in the betrayal the ASA side of XJT. Was it really necessary to yank the travel benefits of all those ASA retirees who had served DL passengers for so many years and then retired with the promise of travel benefits?

Really? Was it not enough to just end the contract? Ya gotta bend over the retirees too? Some who retired while DL owned ASA...kinda like the way DL owns 9E now? That right there does not build confidence in our future.

DC is complicit with Skywest in the destruction of the MSP base. Is anyone aware that MSP was a very senior base with quite a few employees who have been turned into unwilling commuters? It's not like the flying went away. Skywest is doing it. Way to recognize our importance to the DC portfolio! Yaaayyyy!

When given a chance, DL forced 3 airlines into an unwilling marriage and pounded thru below-industry standard wages and workrules. A pilot shortage has forced a change in that situation, but there being no Flight Attendant shortage, the FAs are still operating under horrendous wages and workrules.

This is a business and we are meat. We are well treated meat at the moment due to the pilot shortage.

We are not valued teammemebers. Valued teammembers do not fear such things as losing their promised travel benefits after retirement. Valued teammembers know their employer will keep their promises.

By the way, I like it at 9E, nicest people I have ever met, I am treated like a professional, VERY well compensated and great training, but I left my koolaid dispenser sitting on top of the ASA/XJT crewroom popcorn machine.

Originally Posted by Shadre Reevis

If you don't like working for free, negotiate a duty rig.

Originally Posted by Avrogod

The company should’ve approached the union and offered up a rig in exchange instead of violating past practice and unilaterally imposing them. I think that would be a fair compromise. Instead they said we’re going to do this and we don’t even want your input.

Originally Posted by Avrogod

Just announced, not a good sign that we'll be on our 3rd CEO in less than a year

Originally Posted by Blueskies21

I agree. Let's use the firebreaks to negotiate a duty rig.

2:1 duty to block on a day by day basis?

3.5:1 Time Away From Base to block?

Either would beat working for free and incentivize the company to minimize airport appreciation breaks.

Originally Posted by msprj2

Per diem is not free. Would you like to pay back trips that are cancelled?

Originally Posted by VoiceOfReason

Wow, bud, sounds like you could use a hug. Glad to hear you've moved on...sort of.

Originally Posted by Blueskies21

Agreed. BL was great at the communication and seemed to be a stand up guy ($5,000 donation to the GofundMe for our CA that died on the way to work). As well, it never hurts to have your CEO in charge of the portfolio of your competitors at your mainline partner, I'm a bit sad that's over. Plus it meant he had way more high level insight into DC strategy than would be standard for a wholly owned subsidiary.

Let's just hope having 2 of our former CEO's in Delta Flight Ops helps our case for better career progression and it's not the precursor to a downward slide of our airline.

Originally Posted by Shadre Reevis

So now they're violating "past practice" and not the contract? Your tone changes quickly.

Giving you fewer days off than you want is not a violation of the contract. Making you sit longer than you want without pay is not a violation of the contract. The union only negotiated a minimum number of days off. The union did not negotiate a duty rig, which if secured in advance could have turned these firebreaks into easy money. Hopefully the grievance process will allow discussion for compromise after the fact.