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Old 06-18-2018, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy View Post
Doesn't understand history or is too stupid to understand economics. Endeavor is owned by Delta. The CEO and various other positions are Delta employees. Delta would never allow its regional to provide flying for a competitor nor grease the skids for pilot hiring to another airline during a pilot shortage. To think that it's even possible that you would have any "leverage" to get management to create other opportunities is incredibly stupid.
The majors are not in a pilot shortage.
But more curiously, what is the difference between delta selling above and below the wing services to other airlines and pilot services?
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Old 06-18-2018, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies View Post
The majors are not in a pilot shortage.
But more curiously, what is the difference between delta selling above and below the wing services to other airlines and pilot services?
There is a pilot shortage at the regional level. And to your second point, I don't understand what you are asking and how it relates to my statement.
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Old 06-18-2018, 09:51 AM
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There is a pilot shortage at the regional level. And to your second point, I don't understand what you are asking and how it relates to my statement.
He's asking about DGS but it's not a good comparison.

Delta sells DGS services to other airlines at stations where Delta is already staffing and other airlines are just paying for Delta's downtime.

In the case of pilots/regional feed there's no downtime to be had, therefore Delta has no surplus to sell. Even if they DID have surplus to sell, it's probably more worth it to them to deny the surplus to competitors (see 90 CRJ's parked in the desert rather than sold)
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Old 06-18-2018, 10:09 AM
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Oh sure Delta schedules their competition to arrive and depart during Delta’s down time.
Yeah.
That’s the ticket.
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Old 06-18-2018, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies View Post
Oh sure Delta schedules their competition to arrive and depart during Delta’s down time.
Yeah.
That’s the ticket.
If you have a service already set up at an airport, you can charge your competitors a premium on using your services. This basically turns a sunk cost for doing business at an outstation into a potential wash. If you structure it well enough, you can virtually get your competitors to cover the cost of your ground services.

It has been so successful for Delta and I can only imagine lucrative, that United sunk a fortune into starting up United Ground express instead of relying on DGS and American Eagle. That requires a ton of capital.
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Old 06-20-2018, 03:37 AM
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https://news.delta.com/delta-and-bombardier-execute-purchase-agreement-20-crj900-replacement-aircraft

Doesn’t say for who though.
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Old 06-20-2018, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by prex8390 View Post
https://news.delta.com/delta-and-bombardier-execute-purchase-agreement-20-crj900-replacement-aircraft

Doesn’t say for who though.
Read the article, they are CRJ900- SC... someone is getting new, 70 seat CRJ900s.
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Originally Posted by web500sjc View Post
Read the article, they are CRJ900- SC... someone is getting new, 70 seat CRJ900s.
Just in my opinion. I don’t think they’d buy gojet or Skywest new planes. It’s probaly to replace older CA tail 700s. Maybe they got a filler contract until planes can be delivered to us. After all delta has 22 of their planes,and hiring is picking back up.


Or delta likes gojet better than us and will buy them new planes and give us hand me downs.

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Old 06-20-2018, 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by prex8390 View Post
Just in my opinion. I don’t think they’d buy gojet or Skywest new planes. It’s probaly to replace older CA tail 700s. Maybe they got a filler contract until planes can be delivered to us. After all delta has 22 of their planes,and hiring is picking back up.


Or delta likes gojet better than us and will buy them new planes and give us hand me downs.
I don’t know who is getting them... but my point is they are 700/170 replacements.
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I don’t know who is getting them... but my point is they are 700/170 replacements.
Isn’t there exactly 22 (or is it 20?) old Comair 700’s flying at GoJet? (Along with the 12 900’s they fly.)
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