I just threw 50-100 out there to illustrate a potential point. Farmlover as 80kts said ya want to refute my statement how bout going through the seniority list comparing the most junior captain and the most senior FO then count the FOs in between...cross reference with 16-02 to see who is upgrading, then factor in a small reasonable number of those who the company will never allow to upgrade and you can infer how many are bypassing upgrade. I think it's more than just a handful. I know a handful myself ONLY in the JFK base alone.

80kts I have had a few mainline guys in the jumpseat recently including one who used to help with recruiting and they said the same thing about staffing. It's getting crazy out there. The ASA/XJT interview gives a few guys a shot, but I talked to an ASA Captain and was told that those that qualify for the interview amount to only a small portion of the pilot group there. At 9E I am starting to hear the words flow and/or staple being thrown around for the post SSP era, but I know how much to believe that. Supposedly from the mainline JSers I've had those terms are also being heard as being thrown around the mainline ranks. Personally, I'll only believe those things will happen if and when it actually happens.

 

Staffing is going to get really bad. About 1/3 of the pilots we hire now at 9E are military retirees getting currency, or their pension is good enough they want to stay here for the schedule.

I just don't see many of today's young people, who need instant gratification, going through the pilot process; Most certainly not to the standard any mainline wants especially Delta.

 

Wouldn't that be good for staffing at 9E if military folks stayed? Also, do you mean the newer generation(s) will not become pilots, or they just won't stay at 9E long enough to build experience for mainline?

 

I will say this, at my old flight school where I finished up my flying and then went on to instruct at....they used to have about 12 full time instructors, and that might be a low estimate. Now they have a cobbled together staff of a couple part timers and the owner himself trying to keep the operation going (what's left, they sold off over 3/4ths of the fleet ina about ten years). So clearly the student output is almost nil.

All the time builders I talk to are trying like hell to avoid getting their CFI, but at least some of them consider it. If it weren't for the 1,500 hour rule I think the instructor wanna be pool would be much more bleak.

I posted the 2015 original pilots in my tagline line below. The numbers in I believe every category went down...(though in 2014 there were several categories that rose slightly.). My guard unit used to have fairly qualified off the street/prior enlisted candidates applying for pilot slots. Now, people are barely getting through just their private or not even that and throwing in their stuff. It's kinda nuts.

 

Any interesting rumors going around? All quiet since 175/700 talk died down a few weeks back.

Regarding CFI, absolutely. 75% of the CFIs I worked with had plans for leaving as soon as they met minimums. If they repealed the ATP law, most flight schools would be in a world of pain, and it would only put a quick bandage on hiring. Still takes a while to train someone from PPL to CMEL.

 

https://www.aviationinterviews.com/

I submitted mine on there way back when and all of the current ones I've read are spot on.

 

Not 100% true. That has since been pulled. There was a lot of problems with it, and hopefully they will be changing it to include the entire pilot group. They told us to wait for further information as it's being worked out.

I'm a 2011 new hires, and while they were doing the DL program for interviews, I wasn't included in "that" interview process. Not sure if I got the email or not because they recalled the email shortly after.

 

Where I used to teach as a CFI the only guys left are all a bunch of old-timers, too old to participate in the 121 world. They are basically using the CFI job as a way to supplement their social security and retirement income.

 

Sorry if this has been answered, but I'm a new f.o and am sorting this priority stuff out. Does mainline Delta get priority over 9e guys on a 9e flight.

 

9E has jumpseat priority over everyone else (including delta) on 9E metal


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