Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
08-27-2016, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by musketeer
All I see is a requirement for a full name and employee number to attach a person's comments. Who runs it? Who gets that information?
08-27-2016, 06:28 PM
#6363
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Originally Posted by JSDL
Higney,
Any idea on when the next vacancy will come out? You seem to have a pulse on those kind of things.
Any idea on when the next vacancy will come out? You seem to have a pulse on those kind of things.
08-27-2016, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by stringandrudder
Apparently there is an issue with the Endeavor FSDO/POI. We've been back and forth with recruiters about the issue and they're going all the way up the chain of command trying to get a straight answer. My six points for validity are as follows (and please correct me if I'm wrong!)
Why can we log time in an aicraft normally requiring only one pilot?
1) 135.101
- Except as provided in 135.105 (AP in lieu of SIC reg), no person may operate an aircraft carrying passengers under IFR unless there is a second in command in the aircraft.
2) 61.51 (f)(2)
- Logging Second-in-command flight time.
A person may log second-in-command time only for that flight time during which that person: (2) Holds the appropriate category, class, and instrument rating (if an instrument rating is required for the flight) for the aircraft being flown, and more than one pilot is required under the type certification of the aircraft or the regulations under which the flight is being conducted
3) 61.159 (c) (1) (i) and (ii)
- A commercial pilot may credit the following second-in-command flight time or flight-engineer flight time toward the 1,500 hours of total time as a pilot required by paragraph (a) of this section:
(1) Second-in-command time, provided the time is acquired in an airplane -
(i) Required to have more than one pilot flight crewmember by the airplane's flight manual, type certificate, or the regulations under which the flight is being conducted;
(ii) Engaged in operations under subpart K of part 91, part 121, or part 135 of this chapter for which a second in command is required
4) PIC upgrades at our company (and many others) using SIC time to count towards total time 135 IFR PIC requirements
5) They SPECIFICALLY do not have a problem with CapeAir's SIC time. Why? No clue. Everyone operates under the same regs, regardless of OpSpec. There is no OpSpec "requiring two pilots," only one that allows you to operate with an Autopilot in lieu of an SIC, aka the EXACT OPPOSITE.
6) Every other regional accepts the time. It's apparently just a local FSDO/POI issue!
Why can we log time in an aicraft normally requiring only one pilot?
1) 135.101
- Except as provided in 135.105 (AP in lieu of SIC reg), no person may operate an aircraft carrying passengers under IFR unless there is a second in command in the aircraft.
2) 61.51 (f)(2)
- Logging Second-in-command flight time.
A person may log second-in-command time only for that flight time during which that person: (2) Holds the appropriate category, class, and instrument rating (if an instrument rating is required for the flight) for the aircraft being flown, and more than one pilot is required under the type certification of the aircraft or the regulations under which the flight is being conducted
3) 61.159 (c) (1) (i) and (ii)
- A commercial pilot may credit the following second-in-command flight time or flight-engineer flight time toward the 1,500 hours of total time as a pilot required by paragraph (a) of this section:
(1) Second-in-command time, provided the time is acquired in an airplane -
(i) Required to have more than one pilot flight crewmember by the airplane's flight manual, type certificate, or the regulations under which the flight is being conducted;
(ii) Engaged in operations under subpart K of part 91, part 121, or part 135 of this chapter for which a second in command is required
4) PIC upgrades at our company (and many others) using SIC time to count towards total time 135 IFR PIC requirements
5) They SPECIFICALLY do not have a problem with CapeAir's SIC time. Why? No clue. Everyone operates under the same regs, regardless of OpSpec. There is no OpSpec "requiring two pilots," only one that allows you to operate with an Autopilot in lieu of an SIC, aka the EXACT OPPOSITE.
6) Every other regional accepts the time. It's apparently just a local FSDO/POI issue!
I went straight to a 135 SIC gig right out of flight school and have only 230 hrs PIC.
61.159(a)(v) allows the 250 pic requirement of the ATP to be met with SIC time (while performing the duties of PIC under the supervision of a PIC). I've been logging the time I'm performing the duties as PIC (i.e taxi, taxeoff, enroute, approach and landing) as a separate column in my logbook , but still as SIC) are regionals giving guys a hard time over this that you know of?
I could always log the time as PIC because I'm the sole manipulator and rated, but it's so much simpler to log it all as SIC.
08-27-2016, 07:56 PM
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Actually just found this on the endeavor website under requirments:
250* PIC Airplane
100* PIC Airplane Cross Country
25* PIC Airplane Night
(* May be a combination of SIC and PIC time if the SIC time has been acquired in operations that required a SIC under FAR.)
Looks like they'd accept it. Any one inside know for a fact it's a non-issue?
250* PIC Airplane
100* PIC Airplane Cross Country
25* PIC Airplane Night
(* May be a combination of SIC and PIC time if the SIC time has been acquired in operations that required a SIC under FAR.)
Looks like they'd accept it. Any one inside know for a fact it's a non-issue?
08-28-2016, 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JSDL
Higney,
Any idea on when the next vacancy will come out? You seem to have a pulse on those kind of things.
Any idea on when the next vacancy will come out? You seem to have a pulse on those kind of things.
Vacancy 16-03 classes end in mid-October so future classes will have to be filled after that date. The last four vacancy notices have posted on a Friday. I would suspect the next vacancy will post Friday September 2 to allow enough time to bid, close and award the vacancy and tie it in conjunction with October's trip bidding timeline.
This is my deductive reasoning and not based on actual knowledge.
08-28-2016, 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by higney85
Best place to go for internal questions, comments, and issues. Basically an internal board without company or Alpa view. Only caveat is you have to be a current pilot when you register. Not to knock any other board, including this one, but it's an online crew room for issues pertaining strictly internal. There are plenty of things that should not and/or could not be put on a public board that can now be openly discussed without persecution.
08-28-2016, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Gearswinger
Not even close to being true. I posted there last year and the next day got a call from the regional chief pilot who said that "corporate communications" saw my post and wanted to know if I had found an answer to my question. The company absolutely monitors that board. Out union reps are also on it.
08-28-2016, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JSDL
Higney,
Any idea on when the next vacancy will come out? You seem to have a pulse on those kind of things.
Any idea on when the next vacancy will come out? You seem to have a pulse on those kind of things.
08-28-2016, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TimetoClimb
I went straight to a 135 SIC gig right out of flight school and have only 230 hrs PIC.
61.159(a)(v) allows the 250 pic requirement of the ATP to be met with SIC time (while performing the duties of PIC under the supervision of a PIC). I've been logging the time I'm performing the duties as PIC (i.e taxi, taxeoff, enroute, approach and landing) as a separate column in my logbook , but still as SIC) are regionals giving guys a hard time over this that you know of?
I could always log the time as PIC because I'm the sole manipulator and rated, but it's so much simpler to log it all as SIC.
61.159(a)(v) allows the 250 pic requirement of the ATP to be met with SIC time (while performing the duties of PIC under the supervision of a PIC). I've been logging the time I'm performing the duties as PIC (i.e taxi, taxeoff, enroute, approach and landing) as a separate column in my logbook , but still as SIC) are regionals giving guys a hard time over this that you know of?
I could always log the time as PIC because I'm the sole manipulator and rated, but it's so much simpler to log it all as SIC.
1. Ensure the FAA approved the 135 initial and annual recurrent training is provided for both the PIC and SIC including the items found in 135.293 (a) items (1) through (9).
2. A competency check by the FAA or authorized check pilot in the class of aircraft that these knowledge tests and flights checks are documented and entered into the PRIA system.
3. Ensure, based on contract with the company that the FAA accepts or has accepted company time as SIC towards the upgrade requirements to act as PIC when a company application for PIC is made.
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