Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
01-13-2017, 10:33 AM
#9961
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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver
Sure, 14 airplanes is growth. But for newhires today and this year, they need growth next year to keep the alleged 2 year upgrade to continue. Sure 180 SSP go to Delta this year, but how many of them are actually captains today? Assuming that even 150 of them are captains, that only comes up to roughly 300 upgrades, plus additional outside attrition. Someone hired today has roughly 500 2015 hires in front of them for upgrade. I just don't see 2 year upgrades continuing for people brought on property without significant fleet growth beyond the 14 200's.
I'm not downplaying this place, I'd rather see new hires told the realistic situation than being sold a bill of goods that everyone knows isn't possible.
I'm not downplaying this place, I'd rather see new hires told the realistic situation than being sold a bill of goods that everyone knows isn't possible.
Problem, don't you see that? It's getting pilots to fly them
01-13-2017, 10:39 AM
#9962
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
We can hire, if our pay negotiations work out well for us.
I agree, though there is an upper limit somewhere out there. The pool of regional jobs will remain fairly constant over time. The only thing that may change is how many jobs each contractor controls.
I'll personally feel better about the airplane growth when we start bring on 700s or better and let the 200s fade away.
I agree, though there is an upper limit somewhere out there. The pool of regional jobs will remain fairly constant over time. The only thing that may change is how many jobs each contractor controls.
I'll personally feel better about the airplane growth when we start bring on 700s or better and let the 200s fade away.
01-13-2017, 10:44 AM
#9963
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We are currently THE highest. But will we remain so once we get rid of the bonus is the question.
I agree about the base, but that will get better next bid.
I agree about the base, but that will get better next bid.
Originally Posted by msprj2
We're already among the highest compensated regional pilots. I Think $ isn't the problem now to grow. Bases/career progression.
01-13-2017, 10:45 AM
#9964
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Originally Posted by msprj2
Only 300 upgrades? That's more than 1/3 of FO's here. How many more could we even train? According to mgt 14ac is all we can handle to grow this year. Getting new a/c isn't the
Problem, don't you see that? It's getting pilots to fly them
Problem, don't you see that? It's getting pilots to fly them
01-13-2017, 11:48 AM
#9965
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
We are currently THE highest. But will we remain so once we get rid of the bonus is the question.
I agree about the base, but that will get better next bid.
I agree about the base, but that will get better next bid.
To those in there, any salacious rumors you can confirm or deny?
01-13-2017, 01:23 PM
#9966
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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver
Seems like to me the biggest pay problem is paying people in the training department. Outside of that, until something is done to convince new ATPs that coming here for a shot at Delta is better than a wait for your number to come up to go to American, I don't think we can grow beyond 14 airplanes hoenstly. Lack of west coast flying also hurts recruiting. 300 upgrades is good, but until the other issues are solved, I will be amazed if thrrr is any future growth. Trading 200s for 700/900s isn't growth.
01-13-2017, 01:24 PM
#9967
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Kind of surprised to see this promotion from Ed himself! Based on his remarks, sounds like people in Atlanta are pretty happy with our performance here at EDV. Nice work, everyone!
https://www.facebook.com/9EAir/videos/1299576666784695/
https://www.facebook.com/9EAir/videos/1299576666784695/
01-13-2017, 01:27 PM
#9968
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Is it just me, or are we hiring some truly ugly wimminz these days?
Originally Posted by VoiceOfReason
I see there's a pic of the newest ground school grads on the 9E FB page. Congrats to all! Good luck with sims.
To those in there, any salacious rumors you can confirm or deny?
To those in there, any salacious rumors you can confirm or deny?
01-13-2017, 01:31 PM
#9969
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Originally Posted by IlikePlaness
Kind of surprised to see this promotion from Ed himself! Based on his remarks, sounds like people in Atlanta are happy with our performance here at EDV. Nice work, everyone!
https://www.facebook.com/9EAir/videos/1299576666784695/
https://www.facebook.com/9EAir/videos/1299576666784695/
01-13-2017, 01:48 PM
#9970
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Originally Posted by stillcantfly
Now if we could only tighten up the language of the only defined path to delta. To flip a coin and you might get hired then it would be spot on!
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