Flow is being violated for November
11-03-2017 | 02:07 PM
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Brojangles...someone has been feeding you bad info. 25/month is what the company flows when AA has 50 or more new hires. Anything less than 50 new hires per month means we flow 50% of that new number.
Let me put it like this: say your libido can only handle 3 beeaches in the sack at a time...or 50% of however many hoes you pick up in a night. If you drag home 6 senoritas you can only take 3 into the bedroom..the other 3 you have to pack into an Uber.
If you bring home only 3 ladies..you better hope one of them is a midget, because you're only banging 1.5 of them. Not all 3.
Let me put it like this: say your libido can only handle 3 beeaches in the sack at a time...or 50% of however many hoes you pick up in a night. If you drag home 6 senoritas you can only take 3 into the bedroom..the other 3 you have to pack into an Uber.
If you bring home only 3 ladies..you better hope one of them is a midget, because you're only banging 1.5 of them. Not all 3.
11-05-2017 | 04:22 AM
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** had one class in September, with 38 pilots. We got 50% of that class. That isn't a violation. Metering is applicable as a way for ***** to send less than 50% when ** has large classes, not the opposite. If your "interpretation" of metering was correct, the company would have been in violation of flow pretty much every month since flow began. Probably somebody would have noticed by now if that was the case.
11-07-2017 | 03:42 AM
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From the Union...
Flow Update
"The month of November is slated to see 88 new hires over at AA. Our Contract is clear. We are owed 50% of each and every American Airlines new hire class. 44 pilots should be flowing, however Envoy management is saying 25 flow-throughs for the month satisfies the CBA.
A grievance has been filed over the July, August, and September flow-through, and another is in the wings should Envoy decide that its all-time-high hiring numbers and pipeline of upgrading pilots somehow make it impossible for them to ever possibly comply with our collectively bargained agreement."
Flow Update
"The month of November is slated to see 88 new hires over at AA. Our Contract is clear. We are owed 50% of each and every American Airlines new hire class. 44 pilots should be flowing, however Envoy management is saying 25 flow-throughs for the month satisfies the CBA.
A grievance has been filed over the July, August, and September flow-through, and another is in the wings should Envoy decide that its all-time-high hiring numbers and pipeline of upgrading pilots somehow make it impossible for them to ever possibly comply with our collectively bargained agreement."
11-07-2017 | 05:20 AM
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From the Union...
Flow Update
"The month of November is slated to see 88 new hires over at AA. Our Contract is clear. We are owed 50% of each and every American Airlines new hire class. 44 pilots should be flowing, however Envoy management is saying 25 flow-throughs for the month satisfies the CBA.
A grievance has been filed over the July, August, and September flow-through, and another is in the wings should Envoy decide that its all-time-high hiring numbers and pipeline of upgrading pilots somehow make it impossible for them to ever possibly comply with our collectively bargained agreement."
Flow Update
"The month of November is slated to see 88 new hires over at AA. Our Contract is clear. We are owed 50% of each and every American Airlines new hire class. 44 pilots should be flowing, however Envoy management is saying 25 flow-throughs for the month satisfies the CBA.
A grievance has been filed over the July, August, and September flow-through, and another is in the wings should Envoy decide that its all-time-high hiring numbers and pipeline of upgrading pilots somehow make it impossible for them to ever possibly comply with our collectively bargained agreement."
Expect a settlement in 3-4 years for 1 PVD per pilot, which will then be denied "due to staffing".
11-07-2017 | 10:49 AM
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Just in case people haven't noticed, the "flow date" estimates in the most recent union unofficial seniority list have delayed the estimated dates ... AGAIN. It's a clear signal that it is in everyone's best interest to apply to all the majors and try to get hired before the ever-delaying "flow date."
Each month that the flow isn't honored at 50 percent, every single junior pilot is irreparably and unquantifiably harmed.
I'm just trying to encourage people to not be naive and believe the flow will magically speed up.
(I truly wish I would be proven wrong.)
Each month that the flow isn't honored at 50 percent, every single junior pilot is irreparably and unquantifiably harmed.
I'm just trying to encourage people to not be naive and believe the flow will magically speed up.
(I truly wish I would be proven wrong.)
11-07-2017 | 11:46 AM
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Yes this is much bad news for the pilots of énvoy. I have been saying this was to happen. Too much need for the cheap pilotos at envoy. No need for more expensive ones at AA. You metered now right plus the stop of the flow in September, october and November. It is my understanding that the moving of the flow dates on your union list is 'moving target' always changing. This is how énvoy keep you on the hook.
11-07-2017 | 01:11 PM
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From: SW4
Just in case people haven't noticed, the "flow date" estimates in the most recent union unofficial seniority list have delayed the estimated dates ... AGAIN. It's a clear signal that it is in everyone's best interest to apply to all the majors and try to get hired before the ever-delaying "flow date."
Each month that the flow isn't honored at 50 percent, every single junior pilot is irreparably and unquantifiably harmed.
I'm just trying to encourage people to not be naive and believe the flow will magically speed up.
(I truly wish I would be proven wrong.)
Each month that the flow isn't honored at 50 percent, every single junior pilot is irreparably and unquantifiably harmed.
I'm just trying to encourage people to not be naive and believe the flow will magically speed up.
(I truly wish I would be proven wrong.)
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