New Flow Realities
02-01-2018 | 08:13 PM
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I agree, there will be small short-term glitches. That is one of the reasons, I believe, the AA hiring plan shows a lesser number per month in the fall, that the first 8 or 9 months of the year. It gives them space to recover to meet their plan of 920 hires for 2018.
As you pointed out, last fall they skipped a whole month. The consensus seems to be it was because the Schoolhouse got jammed up with training to new aircraft as part of the Mad Dogs going to the desert the end of 2017.
With this year’s hire plan at 920 and last year’s actual at 645, the entire pipeline has had to be expanded. In a few years, even 920 will barely be enough to handle mandatory retirements. As you said, there will be short-term glitches along the way.
As you pointed out, last fall they skipped a whole month. The consensus seems to be it was because the Schoolhouse got jammed up with training to new aircraft as part of the Mad Dogs going to the desert the end of 2017.
With this year’s hire plan at 920 and last year’s actual at 645, the entire pipeline has had to be expanded. In a few years, even 920 will barely be enough to handle mandatory retirements. As you said, there will be short-term glitches along the way.
Hopefully it ends up being the 920.
02-01-2018 | 08:16 PM
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This was validated by at least two well respected people here as being authentic.
That number was reposted (920 or 925) by another well respected person on 1/31/2018.
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02-01-2018 | 08:34 PM
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When was that published? The American spreadsheet (it is inferred from hiring or training) posted here on the forums said 920, and showed the plan by month. It was dated Jan 16, 2018. That is the latest I have seen. A few weeks earlier a number around 720 was posted.
This was validated by at least two well respected people here as being authentic.
That number was reposted (920 or 925) by another well respected person on 1/31/2018.
This was validated by at least two well respected people here as being authentic.
That number was reposted (920 or 925) by another well respected person on 1/31/2018.
Hopefully it’s intentionally conservative, or an old projection...
02-01-2018 | 10:25 PM
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On 1/14/2018 aapilots said 730.
Two days later, on 1/16/2018, the spreadsheet (apparently from AA hiring or Schoolhouse) showed 40 a class, until fall, then it would then slow down a bit, with a total of 920.
It appears both classes in Jan were in line with the 920 plan. Then the first class in Feb was below even the 730 plan.
A pilot with a great reputation for data said he remembered earlier in Jan. AA was saying they planned on hiring 900 or 925 for 2018.
I would be inclined to believe the 920 as being a more reliable number.
If someone has any update in the last two weeks directly from Hiring or the Schoolhouse, I think we would both would welcome it.
Two days later, on 1/16/2018, the spreadsheet (apparently from AA hiring or Schoolhouse) showed 40 a class, until fall, then it would then slow down a bit, with a total of 920.
It appears both classes in Jan were in line with the 920 plan. Then the first class in Feb was below even the 730 plan.
A pilot with a great reputation for data said he remembered earlier in Jan. AA was saying they planned on hiring 900 or 925 for 2018.
I would be inclined to believe the 920 as being a more reliable number.
If someone has any update in the last two weeks directly from Hiring or the Schoolhouse, I think we would both would welcome it.
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02-02-2018 | 05:39 AM
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I'm not sure an update from the schoolhouse will even be very accurate. Last year about this time they said 750-1000 for 2017, then someone posted 1000, then 700-800, etc. Then they hired 645 or whatever. There are so many factors determining this, and plans change constantly. Also, a lot of people have more than one offer at a time, and decide late.
02-02-2018 | 06:26 AM
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I'm not sure an update from the schoolhouse will even be very accurate. Last year about this time they said 750-1000 for 2017, then someone posted 1000, then 700-800, etc. Then they hired 645 or whatever. There are so many factors determining this, and plans change constantly. Also, a lot of people have more than one offer at a time, and decide late.
The person doing the web page has to get data from somewhere. It likely is something that has not been updated to what has been sent to the Schoolhouse or Hiring as of two weeks ago.
Of course, things can change. But there has to be a current plan. That is what we are discussing here.
As far as what people post here, without substantiation, I take it with a grain of salt. I even saw people post the plan was massive furloughs, and the world will end tomorrow. (Okay, I really don’t remember a post about the world ending tomorrow.)
02-02-2018 | 07:26 PM
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One of the most active and trustworthy AA pilots on the AA forum just stated the hire plan is 950 for the year. This is according to the AA pilot recruiting department, as of this week.
Based on that, what people are seeing in the 700 pilot range on the aapilot webpage has been obsolete for several months and is incorrect according to the AA pilot recruiting department.
Based on that, what people are seeing in the 700 pilot range on the aapilot webpage has been obsolete for several months and is incorrect according to the AA pilot recruiting department.
02-02-2018 | 07:57 PM
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One of the most active and trustworthy AA pilots on the AA forum just stated the hire plan is 950 for the year. This is according to the AA pilot recruiting department, as of this week.
Based on that, what people are seeing in the 700 pilot range on the aapilot webpage has been obsolete for several months and is incorrect according to the AA pilot recruiting department.
Based on that, what people are seeing in the 700 pilot range on the aapilot webpage has been obsolete for several months and is incorrect according to the AA pilot recruiting department.
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