On reserve, you'll need to bid for a schedule for one month that ends in a bunch of reserve days and then bid for a schedule for the following month that has a bunch of reserve days so that you end up with 7 straight days of reserve. You can help this along by adding OT on the last days you have off for the first month but you'll need to do it before the bid for the next month is out.

Having said that, looking back on my HI10 for when I was reserve, it looks like they didn't code it as TL, looks like it was coded as 7D... and I have always selected 'yes' for the transition. I didn't audit my pay back then, hope I was getting paid for those dropped days. There's no TL on my HI10 until I started holding a line.

So for those of you commuters out there here is some advice. 1) Work the last 6 days of the month. 2) Bid a line that gets off on the 2nd and 3rd day of the month. 3) Don't bid the transition. (You still get paid for it.) Or at least I have always been paid when I forgot to select the transition.

Doing these three things will create a 6 on 3 or 4 off schedule guaranteed. Do anything else and you could end up with a random day off in the middle somewhere. If you string together anymore than 7 days then you will get a group of days on with 1 day off in the middle somewhere. What some guys are doing is stringing 7 days of work in a row and expecting the company to give them a day off that bumps up next to a day off. However, when you bid the transition you let the company give you a 3 on 1 off 3 on schedule and as a commuter it sucks!

Bad advice. You might have been lucky getting paid by not selecting transition. But they are not required to pay you for removed flying unless you select yes for transition.

The advice about working the last 6 days of the month and having day 2 and 3 of next month off is sound though.

Also for the guys that bid overlapping flying. You will get removed from flying that overlaps and it will be coded as DC (direct conflict). DC is unpaid, so for the people that think you get paid for both, that’s a myth.

The most effective way to get removed and a free day off is what Pedro mentioned above. However if you live in base and happy with a paid day off anywhere then bid flying that has days touch (but not overlapping) that creates a 7 day conflict

5 years in and I have never seen a D.C. Code on reserve. I have always been paid for the conflict. Is it a slip by crew scheduling? I highly doubt it. I don't THINK 10 E 1 and 2 apply to reserve pilots. If someone wants to I suggest email the union with the question.

Obviously you can’t get DC on reserve days as it’s only overlapping flying that can get DC.

Your previous posts suggest hard line bidding not reserve.

Ahhhh yeah I guess I should of clarified the reserve aspect. I was talking about reserve pilots exclusively.

Did not know you typically got paid, regardless of transition selection (for reserve), even if it might be an oversight, it’s probably worth the risk until someone catches on. That’s good intel. Very good.

As far as the rest, I agree. Mine always ended up working out to having a RSV day removed next to a day off but I knew I was lucky. I was scratching for every penny I could at that time and thought I’d lose pay if I selected “no” and HOPED the day off would at least be next month creating 12 days total days off instead of 11, theoretically creating 4 days I could pick up OT instead of 3. There was so little OT to be had though, I don’t think I ever picked up all 4 days. I only had 4 months on reserve though so it’s not like that’s a large pool of data.

There’s a bunch of people recently not getting paid for not selecting transition. Depends on who the auditor is and what slips through the keeper so to speak.

The auditors who are on their game will code it as a 7D as opposed to a TL and it won’t be paid.

Hmmm, not sure if on their game is right or if it’s just incompetence in another direction. As I mentioned in a previous post, I can see that ALL of my dropped days during my reserve days were marked 7D (at least on my HI10) and I always selected ‘yes’. TL never shows up until I start holding a line.

Every dropped day 7D I've had has been paid on reserve. Just different schedulers different codes TL vs 7D

As a reserve for life guy, I can confirm my pay has been fine regardless of which code is used. I suppose it depends on who adjusts your schedule as to which code you get. This month it’s TL. Earlier in the summer it was 7D. Go figure!

Reserve rules
 

Sorry if posted but can I pick up reserve flying in another city via the daily proffer, assuming the trip lines up with my RSV block? If so how do I get there and back? Also can I pick up OT in another city? Do they give me a commuter hotel if it gets back later than last flight home?

No you can’t do that. You can only proffer for trips in your domicile.

You can request to pick up out of base trips as OT in your days off using an RF form for reserve pilots. You are responsible to get to the sequence yourself. You can request to use a commuter hotel, but it counts towards your 4 commuter hotel for the month.

With respect to proffering for an out of base trip on reserve it's a hard no. However when you are commuting in it never hurts to call CS and say do you need anyone anywhere I'm here in xxxx city. If the need you then they will use you. Pretty much the only time they will bend the rules if they are in a bind. Sometimes it helps you and sometimes it hurts.

The contract gives CS a lot of flexibility when it comes to turnbacks, if you're on the turnback list. In my case, I was about to deadhead back to base from another domicile, hit them up and got an open Miami trip, noshowed the deadhead back to base on my last day (w/ CS concurrence) and went home.

Reserve Rules
 

What’s going on with the new language. I heard it’s all written but they aren’t doing anything with it?! Can we expect it come the new year?

Someone said several pages back the company has it for review but the union doesn't believe they're even looking at it.

This could be such a nice place but it seems like our management just doesn't like us.

Great question for your rep. Give him a shout. Between this forum and guys talking on the line, there are a few different stories as to what's going on with the language. Some say it's almost a done deal, some say it's dead. I'd reach out directly to a rep or the NC if you want an accurate answer.

Like they will honestly answer that question.

This is the problem with all the rumors, our own union sucks at communication hence all the hearsay and rumors.

Bingo!
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We used to get monthy emails with updates and just general info such as attrition numbers and stuff ..I havent seen one of those in a while.. last I saw was that they were cutting back on those and just sending out updates every quarter if I can recall correctly

Ask a P2P. It was covered on the last call.

Officially no, but you might have some luck if you request it over the phone and only outside of the proffer window, as pilots in that base must have the chance to proffer for it by seniority.

For example, if the night prior (or early morning) a trip opens up and hasn't been assigned, they may or may not be willing to give it to you over the phone.

New news letter in my email inbox, so everyone else should have one as well. But no info on whether or not anything is going on.

Just want to make sure my understanding of the contract is correct. If I have Ready Reserve from say 1100 - 1900, if I don’t get used, I don’t have to call to be released. I can just leave the airport at 1900. Is that right?


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Technically you have to call. Never have called and its never been an issue

if one “forgets” to confirm RAP 2, does crew scheduling default to RAP 1? cant remember, had not been on rsv for a while.

Other way around my dude

Unless it is day 1, then it does revert back to rap1

Thanks brah

Wait wait. You have given very little detail for an accurate answer to be given. Is this Day 1 and CS already given you an HI6 for a RAP1? Then yes any assignment not confirmed will be changed to a RAP1.

Is it day two and you were assigned a RAP 1 and didn't confirm. Then they will call and give you your next day assignment that is almost always a RAP 2.

So if you're a morning person, is this sort of allowed if you don't like early starts, or is this considered abusive?

Sucks
 

Worst reserve rules in aviation. 135 operators treat thier pilots better than Envoy treats thier pilots.

It's all fair game until the company decides to work with the union and fix the reserve rules. However, it is seen as bad form to proffer for a trip and then not confirm causing a junior pilot to possibly not get a trip they wanted.

Well said. It doesn’t hurt the company it just hurts the guys with you on reserve. Never proffer for a trip and not confirm it. I know rarely I have just forgotten to confirm. If you are junior on reserve and about to do your third or fourth day on S1 and you don’t confirm your next S1 then no ones going to fault you for it. I have four kids so I try to maximize my time at home. If one gets sick or something happens and I need a different start time then I may “forget”to confirm a schedule and I hope others do the same when needed.

You will not get in trouble except if you fall asleep and miss a phone call from CS

For the last three and a half years I have been on here telling everyone about envoy reserve. Why didn’t you listen? Why did you come here?

Because this guys sole reason on this forum is to bash this company and then he disappears


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100% commuter on reserve

Don’t be a ****
 

Listen,

Here is the deal *****, your a **** to the norm. Grow some balls. Some of us have been here more than you think. Graduate, upgrade, if your skills are up for it and be a leader scab.