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Old 01-19-2018 | 06:44 AM
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Maybe bonuses are approved for prior 121. I can’t see why management would hold out on pay raises if AAG approved it and it would help recruiting/retention. Soon, retention will be our biggest problem once again.
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Old 01-19-2018 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Aviatrx
Maybe bonuses are approved for prior 121. I can’t see why management would hold out on pay raises if AAG approved it and it would help recruiting/retention. Soon, retention will be our biggest problem once again.
Two main reasons I'm guessing are we don't need NHs right now. Even if we could hire 60-70 every two weeks they wouldn't. This would create a CA FO imbalance. They NEED "high valued aviators" to fly with the NHs because we just ran out of 1000 hr 121 pilots. Once, our massive NH classes in late 16-2017 start getting to 1000 hours then we won't need the high value aviator bonuses and we can go back to hiring 60-70 a month. Also, I THINK the executives get a higher bonus if we are more profitable. Giving us more money means less bonuses for them.
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Old 01-19-2018 | 06:54 AM
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Makes sense
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Old 01-19-2018 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Aviatrx
Maybe bonuses are approved for prior 121. I can’t see why management would hold out on pay raises if AAG approved it and it would help recruiting/retention. Soon, retention will be our biggest problem once again.
Because recruiting/retention aren't hurting in the least right now. Once that happens, then they'll act. They're not gonna drop an extra dime one second before they have to. Reactive, not proactive.
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Old 01-19-2018 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 1704LIFE
Anyone have a link to the conference call that we can listen to? Would love to hear it from the horses mouth.
No such link exists. Contact ALPA directly if you don't believe it.
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Old 01-19-2018 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by bigtime209
No such link exists. Contact ALPA directly if you don't believe it.
I was on the call and heard it with my own ears. I think there are several of us on here who were there.
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Old 01-19-2018 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Jersdawg
I was on the call and heard it with my own ears. I think there are several of us on here who were there.


+1 for me. I heard that and also how ENY will never flow more then 25 a month.


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Old 01-19-2018 | 07:16 AM
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While I don't have official confirmation, I've heard through the grapevine that PDT and PSA are in active negotiations for raises right now. We'll see what happens over there.
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Old 01-19-2018 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bigtime209
While I don't have official confirmation, I've heard through the grapevine that PDT and PSA are in active negotiations for raises right now. We'll see what happens over there.
If they are in negotiations, I hope they're not negotiating anything away. These raises need to be given if any of the WO want to continue running a decent operation in the future. No negotiation should be necessary and none of our unions should be expending any capital except for saying how waiting will bite mgmt in the ass down the road.
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Old 01-19-2018 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bigtime209
While I don't have official confirmation, I've heard through the grapevine that PDT and PSA are in active negotiations for raises right now. We'll see what happens over there.
I hope ALPA has an open line of communications between the 3 carriers because it's clear what the lowest offer one carrier will accept will be what the other 2 are given as well. But there needs to be conversations between the 3 to make that happen.
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