MD-11Loader, can you confirm this?

I'm not MD-11, but to me that sounds like nasty trolling aimed to solicit nasty comments

So my last post was removed because I cursed so I’ll try again.

I really hope they did talk to him. Swayne Martin is selling out his fellow pilots. Posting videos on how he picks up OT is absolutely cringe worthy.

Someone should give him a history lesson on how Envoy/ Eagle and AA management have shafted the Envoy former Eagle pilots in the past and are continuing to do so. I get he has a passion for aviation, as we all do, but he really needs to find another way to show it. His videos prop Envoy up and I can’t figure out if he realizes that management doesn’t care about him or his fellow pilots. How many times do pilots have to be screwed before guys like Swayne realizes management does not have our interests in mind.

I really wish he would make a video about Envoy and how they are the lowest payed wholly owned regional. But he probably thinks he’ll flow and never have to worry about being stuck a regional for 12+ years.
I really wish him all the best, but he really should open his eyes.

Swayne ain’t waiting around for a flow. I’d bet a beer he gets picked up by JetBlue, southwest or United as soon as gets 1000 121 time.

Not likely if he keeps teeing off so many pilots like he’s doing

Agree. Aviation is a small community and the majors don't care about social media wannabes like the regionals do.

People talk and don't think that higher ups at some of the above mentioned carriers aren't aware of his name.

lol seriously? Let’s be real, he’s going to be just fine. He is well connected and there are a lot of “higher ups” that are NGPA members that have his back and can’t wait to hire him. He will more than likely be at a major long before most people his age / career progression. Is that fair? No it’s not, and nor do I think he cares. To me it’s clear that he only cares about his career and his social status / image and not the pilot group as a whole. If he really was a team player then he would stop making videos that are made in partnership with envoy. He never should have done that in the first place. He sold himself out for his own self career advancement. Good for him I suppose?

To be clear, before people jump on me, I am not bashing and I am not hating. My point is that he is not your friend, he is not your buddy. He is out for himself and he is well connected and will not “pay his dues” like most others will. Also he will not understand anything about “paying dues” because to him his social media status is a free pass and somehow makes him more qualified and better than a pilot with more experience and education.

This is the world we live in unfortunately. Say hello and welcome to your future mainline Captains.

Oh and what’s really going to burst your bubbles is when your realize how not unique Swayne is. There are similar things to him all over at every regional

This is the most depressing post. Sadly it’s true.

I disagree, if he was so connected like many think, than he would already be at s major. You don't need 1000 hrs 121 time, nor regional experience. Many already have been hired with less time and experience.

He might be connected with Envoy management, but that only gets you so much.

Yeah there was a 21 year old hired at AA with nothing more than flying parachutists.

Never underestimate the power of the back channel. Whether it is nepotism (E175) or any other, small, tightly connected group.

No major would hire him with his lack of experience, no matter who he’s “connected” with. He’s a total newbie. He’s barely off of IOE at his first airline gig out of school. His few months of right seat time at Mokulele in the Caravan don’t help him at all.

He has more relevant experience than your average fighter ace from the AF, and majors have no problems hiring those.

Haha! Uh, no. Not quite. There are plenty of well connected young pilots out there, and nobody gets on at a major with Swayne’s extremely low experience level. Maybe in a year or so, but not right now.

And there’s no way anyone would compare his experience to a military trained pilot with similar hours. No comparison.

Don’t want to make this a military versus civilian, but I have to disagree with you. Flying a caravan is just a big Cessna. And he can’t have much time here, which I do agree is relevant.

You say this like it’s a bad thing. Use whatever connections you’ve got.

I personally know people with no jet chops whatsoever who waltzed into a legacy job (not AA), however they all had big visible diversity points to offer, ie minority female on top of networking.

I agree with what you are saying, but he’ll be at mainline long before 1000 TPIC. in fact, the only reason he’ll upgrade before leaving is because envoy wants him to make a video about upgrade.

Would you go to mainline if they offered you a job years before your flow? I bet you would.

I don’t understand the point of making up hypotheses about things none of us know ANYTHING about. Let’s just make this a thread to spread rumors about Swayne. It should just be retitled that :D I know there’s almost never reliable info on APC, but this is some next level nonsense.

I said that because someone thought he is just a small fish in a big tank. My point was that Swayne WILL use those channels, because he has some of them available.

I certainly would. I’m just not not in any of those aforementioned groups.

Absolutely! Not knocking him for it, just stating an opinion.

Are we not all whatever we happen to believe we are in this day and age? I mean, you can be in whatever group you want and there is no way anyone could judge you for it.

Fly With Garrett
 

At least Garrett doesn’t sugar coat it like Swayne. Garrett’s videos are way more educational and realistic.

https://youtu.be/vutJWVOPTFI

Is Garrett at Envoy too?

Swayne is management material. Some time down the road, he will be cutting costs and forcing pilots to work for less.

So guys in this video I'm going to show you how we fire pilots we don't like by telling them their 2 sick calls didn't meet the attendance standard of an envoy pilot

He was talking about Charlotte and Philly, and pics are in a 145, so I would guess PDT.

I think that’s verbatim what they told that guy whose career they assassinated for social media posts lol

You would be correct. So odd that two days after said posts he gets called in for attendance and terminated. No, we can't see that for what it is.

Thanks, the couple I watched reminded me of Aviator Chavez as he seemed to give realistic information without sounding like a recruiter.

A captain at that.

“we’re short captains so bad we are canceling flights, but let’s fire one because we don’t agree with what he wrote on social media” - Envoy

What's up with this? Care to give us some details, as I am unfamiliar with this situation.

He made a rather poor choice and posted something on Facebook. He was originally called in for social media policy but at the last minute they made it about attendance and terminated.

Was it the guy who posted pics from a beach vacation while on a sick leave? Or was that another case?

No. He didn't have an attendance issue and may be getting a lawyer.

He posted something along the lines of "**** management" on the billboard gofundme which included his full name and facebook profile picture of him in uniform in front of an american aircraft tail.


..not the smartest choice.

Now that you mention it. Where did that money go?

You didn't think that money was going to actually go to something legit did you?

It was Gofundme. They refund the money when the fundraiser fails.

Pretty sure it exceeded the target value when I last looked. Did you get a refund?