Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 3167868)

Queue the dingbats.

"THIS IS AMERICA"
"I HAVE THE RIGHT TO HATE"
"PELOSI CAN'T TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME"

Maybe we can get this thread closed, like some people have been asking for for... years? Has it been years yet?

Originally Posted by Sperrysan (Post 3168099)

yeah take my Joke statement of it is America as a political statement. Delusional much? Did the president touch you in your Nono place?

Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 3168116)

Dude, I know it wasn't. Just trying to start trouble.

Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine (Post 3167611)

You are grasping at straws. Are you new to 121? Do you realize that management pilots do delivery flights and maintenance flights? What about when an airline brings a plane to an airshow? How do you think that is handled? What Swayne is doing is no different. If your contract has something that specifically prevents management from assigning pilots to non-revenue flights, then you would have a case. I have never seen that before and I would be surprised that Envoy and ALPA would look the other way, so I am going to assume the Envoy contract does not prevent management from picking pilots for special projects that also involves operating aircraft. Again, did you also complain when some pilots are picked to work tables at career fairs?

Originally Posted by dera (Post 3168083)

I've been occasionally involved with ALPA, and I have no clue what you are talking about.
No arbitrator would ever side with the association over a pilot who occasionally does S/As for recruiting purposes.

Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3168329)

Apples & oranges. He is not a management pilot. You think a management pilot bids a line and flys 75 hours a month, having multiple FDP's?

Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3168329)

If the company takes him off on S/A to do a specific flight that's pretty much management rights. So is the rest of what he's doing. They can remove and pay protect a guy, then stick SM in on a flight under S/A pretty much at will... (assuming the rules haven't changed much since I left)

Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 3168337)

This topic has been beaten to death and now you’ve enticed Cuj out of his lair to offer up some wildly inaccurate and ridiculous statements and he doesn’t even work here. SM is WELL within his rights to do this and you guys really should be THANKING him. Yes, those videos help recruitment where I’ve worked in the past. Let me tell you it is not an easy job.

Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine (Post 3168338)

According to Varsity, Swayne is violating the contract according to Section 24. Arbitrators don't care if the contract is violated only occasionally. A violation is a violation. I have had grievances filed for as little as 4 minutes of flight time and won.

Either Swayne is violating the contract or he isn't. If he is, then there is no excuse why ALPA would allow it to continue.

Originally Posted by HalyardJammer (Post 3164389)

Try to have some critical thinking skills before you start opening your mouth as to people's motives.