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12-26-2019, 01:31 PM
#1261
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Joined APC: Aug 2013
Position: Center Seat
Posts: 143
Originally Posted by THKooj
Actually I flowed through mid 2018 and I still consider an Envoy pilot an American pilot. It is pretty simple for me. You are hired to be an AA pilot before you get to the pipeline. Envoy flies AA painted planes with NN registrations, have exactly the same uniforms and the same computer system among other things. There is no additional interview or screening after the initial where you are hired at Envoy. A simple departmental transfer is all that happens. Why don't you explain to me how you think you are not American Airlines.
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12-26-2019, 01:39 PM
#1262
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 3,659
Originally Posted by THKooj
Actually I flowed through mid 2018 and I still consider an Envoy pilot an American pilot. It is pretty simple for me. You are hired to be an AA pilot before you get to the pipeline. Envoy flies AA painted planes with NN registrations, have exactly the same uniforms and the same computer system among other things. There is no additional interview or screening after the initial where you are hired at Envoy. A simple departmental transfer is all that happens. Why don't you explain to me how you think you are not American Airlines.
Different Union
Different Pay Structure
Different Benefits
Different Scope
Different Everything
Different Badge
Different Jumpseat Priority on AA
There, that is just a simple list of things, not even venturing into contract and work rule issues. With your logic, every AA pilot is an Envoy pilot then due the same uniforms, same software, same qualifications etc.
Come on, lets be real.
12-26-2019, 02:14 PM
#1264
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Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 449
Originally Posted by THKooj
Actually I flowed through mid 2018 and I still consider an Envoy pilot an American pilot. It is pretty simple for me. You are hired to be an AA pilot before you get to the pipeline. Envoy flies AA painted planes with NN registrations, have exactly the same uniforms and the same computer system among other things. There is no additional interview or screening after the initial where you are hired at Envoy. A simple departmental transfer is all that happens. Why don't you explain to me how you think you are not American Airlines.
12-26-2019, 03:09 PM
#1265
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 190
Originally Posted by THKooj
Actually I flowed through mid 2018 and I still consider an Envoy pilot an American pilot. It is pretty simple for me. You are hired to be an AA pilot before you get to the pipeline. Envoy flies AA painted planes with NN registrations, have exactly the same uniforms and the same computer system among other things. There is no additional interview or screening after the initial where you are hired at Envoy. A simple departmental transfer is all that happens. Why don't you explain to me how you think you are not American Airlines.
12-26-2019, 03:59 PM
#1266
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
Originally Posted by deraa
All looks good, except, welcome to Envoy Air INC. Just to clarify we are a regional airline not a legacy airline. But we have similar uniforms to AA and get to wear the same lanyard.
And to add to the list, wings aren’t the same either.
12-26-2019, 04:00 PM
#1267
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,470
Originally Posted by pitchattitude
Actually it’s not even the same lanyard. Envoy is required to wear the AA lanyard if a lanyard is worn. Look at the AA pilots. They wear an APA lanyard. Envoy specifies the AA lanyard so if the union tried any kind of solidarity lanyard it would be non compliant and an FM1 violation.
And to add to the list, wings aren’t the same either.
And to add to the list, wings aren’t the same either.
Our FOs wear the same wings as their FAs though!
12-26-2019, 04:57 PM
#1270
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Joined APC: Dec 2017
Posts: 467
Originally Posted by ParkingatMIA
What everyone seems to forget is we get to wear leather jackets, those “mainline” pilots can’t. So what does that say about AA.
American “The real AA” Eagle > AA
American “The real AA” Eagle > AA
Boom. Mic drop
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