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09-30-2018, 07:41 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
DFW first day is typically available on the 175. The problem is getting a 175 slot, and it's a high risk proposition - FO's are seat locked here, meaning that once you get the 145 or god forbid the CRJ, it's either quit or learn to love the suck.
The 145 is much more likely than the CRJ, luckily, and you can actually fly after 4-5 months of reserve in NY. You'll be on never-fly reserve for upwards of a year if you go LGA-ORD-DFW like many of us are doing though.
The 145 is much more likely than the CRJ, luckily, and you can actually fly after 4-5 months of reserve in NY. You'll be on never-fly reserve for upwards of a year if you go LGA-ORD-DFW like many of us are doing though.
The only thing I would care about is getting a DFW base, as I live there (hence the interest in Envoy). Reserve sucks everywhere, but as long as I'd live in base it isn't miserable. Are you guys that fat on Reserves that reservists never fly?
Thanks for answering questions.
09-30-2018, 08:00 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by E6BAV8R
What's so wrong with the CRJ side? Is DFW even a CRJ base? How long are you seat locked for? That's the first I've heard of a seat lock at Envoy.
The only thing I would care about is getting a DFW base, as I live there (hence the interest in Envoy). Reserve sucks everywhere, but as long as I'd live in base it isn't miserable. Are you guys that fat on Reserves that reservists never fly?
Thanks for answering questions.
The only thing I would care about is getting a DFW base, as I live there (hence the interest in Envoy). Reserve sucks everywhere, but as long as I'd live in base it isn't miserable. Are you guys that fat on Reserves that reservists never fly?
Thanks for answering questions.
09-30-2018, 08:10 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by E6BAV8R
What's so wrong with the CRJ side? Is DFW even a CRJ base? How long are you seat locked for? That's the first I've heard of a seat lock at Envoy.
The only thing I would care about is getting a DFW base, as I live there (hence the interest in Envoy). Reserve sucks everywhere, but as long as I'd live in base it isn't miserable. Are you guys that fat on Reserves that reservists never fly?
Thanks for answering questions.
The only thing I would care about is getting a DFW base, as I live there (hence the interest in Envoy). Reserve sucks everywhere, but as long as I'd live in base it isn't miserable. Are you guys that fat on Reserves that reservists never fly?
Thanks for answering questions.
You could get lucky and get DFW 175/145; in which case life as an FO would be pretty good. Or, draw the short straw and get ORD CRJ FO. The commute between DFW and ORD is a particularly tough one. But then, your forced upgrade will come in no time and you'll be in LGA or ORD.
It looks like Mesa is a much better option for holding DFW as soon as possible, both as FO and CA.
09-30-2018, 08:45 AM
#34
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Originally Posted by E6BAV8R
What's so wrong with the CRJ side? Is DFW even a CRJ base? How long are you seat locked for? That's the first I've heard of a seat lock at Envoy.
The only thing I would care about is getting a DFW base, as I live there (hence the interest in Envoy). Reserve sucks everywhere, but as long as I'd live in base it isn't miserable. Are you guys that fat on Reserves that reservists never fly?
Thanks for answering questions.
The only thing I would care about is getting a DFW base, as I live there (hence the interest in Envoy). Reserve sucks everywhere, but as long as I'd live in base it isn't miserable. Are you guys that fat on Reserves that reservists never fly?
Thanks for answering questions.
The question I have is why have our planners created such a huge staffing imbalance?
09-30-2018, 08:59 AM
#35
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
Like everything here, when it comes to reserve your experience is going depend on what fleet you get. I can tell you from experience that the 145 is comically overstaffed with FO’s. Subtracting consolidation flying, I’ve averaged about 10 hours a month. My loss could be your gain though, if you get the 175 - comparatively luxurious with short involuntary reserve commitments and even FO critical coverage sometimes.
The question I have is why have our planners created such a huge staffing imbalance?
The question I have is why have our planners created such a huge staffing imbalance?
09-30-2018, 09:09 AM
#36
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Originally Posted by havick206
15 Transtates 145’s heading our way
That was my understanding between the fleet projection and some conversions. But the truth changes regularly.
09-30-2018, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
Like everything here, when it comes to reserve your experience is going depend on what fleet you get. I can tell you from experience that the 145 is comically overstaffed with FO’s. Subtracting consolidation flying, I’ve averaged about 10 hours a month. My loss could be your gain though, if you get the 175 - comparatively luxurious with short involuntary reserve commitments and even FO critical coverage sometimes.
The question I have is why have our planners created such a huge staffing imbalance?
The question I have is why have our planners created such a huge staffing imbalance?
09-30-2018, 09:27 AM
#38
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Originally Posted by greendotplus10
I want to get to DFW as well. Problem with the CRJ at MQ is that it is only flying in ORD. New hires are seat locked on equipment for 2 years. Since ORD is the only CRJ base it means you are also base locked for 2 years. I actually want to fly the CRJ but I care about domicile a lot more. From the other threads it looks like base and equipment assignment is a toss up.
You could get lucky and get DFW 175/145; in which case life as an FO would be pretty good. Or, draw the short straw and get ORD CRJ FO. The commute between DFW and ORD is a particularly tough one. But then, your forced upgrade will come in no time and you'll be in LGA or ORD.
It looks like Mesa is a much better option for holding DFW as soon as possible, both as FO and CA.
You could get lucky and get DFW 175/145; in which case life as an FO would be pretty good. Or, draw the short straw and get ORD CRJ FO. The commute between DFW and ORD is a particularly tough one. But then, your forced upgrade will come in no time and you'll be in LGA or ORD.
It looks like Mesa is a much better option for holding DFW as soon as possible, both as FO and CA.
- you are not seatlocked for 2 years as an FO. You are seatlocked until upgrade. FOs cannot bid to other equipment. Same equipment to other base only.
- you upgrade on the CRJ will not come in no time since you will be sitting reserve until the jets are parked
Guys got DFW on first/second bid this spring/summer on 175/145
10-01-2018, 03:54 AM
#39
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Originally Posted by BigZ
Few points need to be clarified
- you are not seatlocked for 2 years as an FO. You are seatlocked until upgrade. FOs cannot bid to other equipment. Same equipment to other base only.
- you upgrade on the CRJ will not come in no time since you will be sitting reserve until the jets are parked
Guys got DFW on first/second bid this spring/summer on 175/145
- you are not seatlocked for 2 years as an FO. You are seatlocked until upgrade. FOs cannot bid to other equipment. Same equipment to other base only.
- you upgrade on the CRJ will not come in no time since you will be sitting reserve until the jets are parked
Guys got DFW on first/second bid this spring/summer on 175/145
That is pretty ridiculous that they wouldn't tell you what Base / Equipment you get awarded before you start training and you can't bid to a different base/equipment. I'm also willing to bet that they won't give you an option to hold a class date until you get the equipment you want? Say if I tell them I only want the 175 and I'll hold out from starting training until they have an opening in a 175 class?
Can you bid a different Base / Equipment when you are a Captain?
10-01-2018, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
That has been thrown around a lot, but I think they are essentially “pass through.” I think we are supposed to transfer some 140s out to PSA or Piedmont. I think that fleet is supposed to stay flat.
That was my understanding between the fleet projection and some conversions. But the truth changes regularly.
That was my understanding between the fleet projection and some conversions. But the truth changes regularly.
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