Envoy 2019
07-24-2019 | 05:47 PM
#1551
In a land of unicorns
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From: Whale FO
Even wide body captains don't make $30k a month.
Even if they did, your claim has a lot of IFs in it. IF they don't lose their medical. IF they make it to American. IF they get a captain upgrade on a wide body. IF there isn't a global recession that prevents all of that. IF we aren't flying single pilot when we retire.
IFs don't pay the bills.
Even if they did, your claim has a lot of IFs in it. IF they don't lose their medical. IF they make it to American. IF they get a captain upgrade on a wide body. IF there isn't a global recession that prevents all of that. IF we aren't flying single pilot when we retire.
IFs don't pay the bills.
That's why I had the range there. Call it $50-90k, or whatever. It's still a lot of money.
And yes, there are a ton of IF's, not denying that.
07-24-2019 | 05:48 PM
#1552
On Reserve
Joined: Feb 2019
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Where is your info on TWO months of no classes at AA coming from? As far as I’ve heard they are only losing August.
07-24-2019 | 05:51 PM
#1553
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Even wide body captains don't make $30k a month.
Even if they did, your claim has a lot of IFs in it. IF they don't lose their medical. IF they make it to American. IF they get a captain upgrade on a wide body. IF there isn't a global recession that prevents all of that. IF we aren't flying single pilot when we retire.
IFs don't pay the bills.
Even if they did, your claim has a lot of IFs in it. IF they don't lose their medical. IF they make it to American. IF they get a captain upgrade on a wide body. IF there isn't a global recession that prevents all of that. IF we aren't flying single pilot when we retire.
IFs don't pay the bills.
07-25-2019 | 03:47 AM
#1557
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A big win for me was that senior pilots didn’t get hosed at the expense of newer pilots. Everyone saw an equalish bump in pay.
07-25-2019 | 06:55 AM
#1558
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I like this deal. Significant pay increases plus faster flow to AA. I’ll trade three months sooner to a AA for two weeks worth of back pay valued at 400$ish. Pay rates beat what I was expecting.
A big win for me was that senior pilots didn’t get hosed at the expense of newer pilots. Everyone saw an equalish bump in pay.
A big win for me was that senior pilots didn’t get hosed at the expense of newer pilots. Everyone saw an equalish bump in pay.
In terms of hosed, senior pilots made out on the last deal as well, flowing PP's significantly faster, so where is this senior captains getting hosed complaint coming from?
07-25-2019 | 07:58 AM
#1559
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I like this deal. Significant pay increases plus faster flow to AA. I’ll trade three months sooner to a AA for two weeks worth of back pay valued at 400$ish. Pay rates beat what I was expecting.
A big win for me was that senior pilots didn’t get hosed at the expense of newer pilots. Everyone saw an equalish bump in pay.
A big win for me was that senior pilots didn’t get hosed at the expense of newer pilots. Everyone saw an equalish bump in pay.
07-25-2019 | 08:48 AM
#1560
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The AIP was dead know that!
Now when compared to PSA/PDT we got a better deal. The rates are the same at all three but PSA has significantly more large RJs that’s an issue and we are not going to solve it overnight but over the next 2 years it should get closer to parity. 140s getting parked more 175s coming. But those who are on Payband B are the ones who got the largest flow benefit about 2.5 months is that earth shattering? No but it’s more than PSA/PDT got PDT is all small RJs.
Now when compared to PSA/PDT we got a better deal. The rates are the same at all three but PSA has significantly more large RJs that’s an issue and we are not going to solve it overnight but over the next 2 years it should get closer to parity. 140s getting parked more 175s coming. But those who are on Payband B are the ones who got the largest flow benefit about 2.5 months is that earth shattering? No but it’s more than PSA/PDT got PDT is all small RJs.
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