Envoy does have the POTENTIAL to be a great place, but so do a lot of others. Will the pay raises come? Eventually. It is very questionable when. Even though AAG has approved the budget (this from RN several weeks ago), management is unwilling to put this into practice and have stated that as long as there are butts in class they don’t need to give raises.

Biggest problem with Envoy is a pervasive culture from management of antagonism against the pilots (and workers in general). Has been and probably always will be. This was demonstrated seven months ago when they came to the table demanding concessions before even talking about points they had already agreed to discuss.

If you look at the way the airline is run, the MOST important thing is blockout on time. Woe to you that is the reason a flight is late. Every section will track when things happen so that if it is late they can point the finger at someone else. Are there problems, yes. But the biggest part of the problem is unrealistic turn times because RJs (except the 175) don’t have room for anything bigger as carry on than small personal sized item. That means MOST carry ons have to be gate checked. Takes time. Pax are waiting in the jet bridge for their bags so can’t load the next flight. Is that any workers fault? No! There are things that can be done to help, but it comes back to unrealistic times because of the process itself. So everyone is under pressure to fix a problem they have very little control over. And if you’re the last one without a chair when the music stops, all fingers get pointed at you. It all comes back to culture which isn’t changing anytime soon.

 

Spot on.

Management is openly hostile and aggressive towards pilots. You are the source of all their problems, and not worthy of anything other than trash status.

That won't change until the people do. RN, RW, PF.

 

We are not a terrible option if you live in base. That said, if you have to commute to the bottom of the RSV
Totem pole.... BOHICA.

 

Does someone in their early 20’s have any chance of getting assigned the 175 if they aren’t a cadet?

 

Chance? Yes. Likely? No. Less than 5% chance over the past 12 months.

Only come to Envoy if you are OK with the 145.

 

Thanks, I figured it would be a long shot!

 

This bad, I doubt it, at least in terms of pay. We will likely not ever be the highest paid because of the flow, so those that think we should be may still have an issue.

I think it will pass in time. How long and to what extent is anyone’s guess. I’ve said it before, it feels as though managment has a genuine disdain for us, so know that if you are coming here.

 

Prelim system bid is out, for those interested.

 

Listed myself for a flight for today. Checked in last night and saw I was number 1 on the list. Come to the gate today and I’m number 2. I figured the other person might have been bumped off an earlier flight. Thus being put in front of me on the list.
I recognize the person, long story short, I’ve had issues with this person specifically on another commute. Decide to look at the standby list on the previous flights today and it appears that any D2 should have gotten on.
Ive heard of ways to alter ones sign in time to bump them up the list. Anyway to confirm this? Or if it had been done?

 

I guess you could check in for an earlier flight then ask a gate agent to move you to the next one