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Old 04-20-2019 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
How did we end up with such despicable managers anyway? From what I understand from my friends at PSA it was just "here you guys go lol" no concessions, no folded grievances, no protracted back-and-forth.
I'm no company guy but can you really blame them for running an operation that needs most of AAs needs without the added cost of raises? From what I understand PSA actually was looking at low enough new hires this summer that required something to get more people in the door.

Envoy has not had to struggle staffing wise since last summer, which was corrected somewhat with the LoAs that made DEC hiring easier and slightly more attractive.

Even now we're filling classes almost entirely with cadets and prior 121 people. Yes you could argue that raises now would prevent a drop off later from PSA siphoning pilots but our management has never been known to act proactively.

Last year was our opportunity to try and get some pay/QoL improvements when we were due to be short on captains going into the summer. We got a few things and a small flow increase and in return the company got everything they needed to avoid giving us a raise and checking the boxes AA needed to be checked.
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Old 04-20-2019 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ENH017
I'm no company guy but can you really blame them for running an operation that needs most of AAs needs without the added cost of raises? From what I understand PSA actually was looking at low enough new hires this summer that required something to get more people in the door.

Envoy has not had to struggle staffing wise since last summer, which was corrected somewhat with the LoAs that made DEC hiring easier and slightly more attractive.

Even now we're filling classes almost entirely with cadets and prior 121 people. Yes you could argue that raises now would prevent a drop off later from PSA siphoning pilots but our management has never been known to act proactively.

Last year was our opportunity to try and get some pay/QoL improvements when we were due to be short on captains going into the summer. We got a few things and a small flow increase and in return the company got everything they needed to avoid giving us a raise and checking the boxes AA needed to be checked.
Don’t know how many are prior 121. There have only been a handful of DECs since beginning of the year. I think the biggest number besides cadets is the RTP.
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Old 04-20-2019 | 05:48 PM
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Also to add to this...just a reminder that if you go through ops or any other entrance except KCM/TSA check point to work a flight you then have to reclear if you end up DH/Non rev.
Lol yea "so ya see, I missed my DH because I had to exit the airport and reclear TSA."
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Old 04-21-2019 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
How did we end up with such despicable managers anyway? From what I understand from my friends at PSA it was just "here you guys go lol" no concessions, no folded grievances, no protracted back-and-forth.
The reason we are in this situation is you showed up when they tossed a menial bonus and a little pay raise aimed predominantly at NHs. They offered scraps to CAs and senior FOs and was able to go to 2400 pilots from 1500.
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Old 04-21-2019 | 03:46 AM
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Point taken and since day one of indoc I’ve regretted coming here, although I was always going to stay with my 1st regional. However, when I signed up you turds were talking about 1 mo reserve and DFW in class on here and Envoy had top tier pay. I’ve done my part to put the word out.
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Old 04-21-2019 | 05:31 AM
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What is the proper way to resign from envoy? Walk into CPO office?


Asking for a friend of course.
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Old 04-21-2019 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Varsity
What is the proper way to resign from envoy? Walk into CPO office?





Asking for a friend of course.
A letter with two weeks notice hand delivered to the CP.

-Keep the dirty side down
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Old 04-21-2019 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Varsity
What is the proper way to resign from envoy? Walk into CPO office?





Asking for a friend of course.

[MENTION=74219]Varsity[/MENTION], congrats!


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Old 04-21-2019 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 3GreenKSNA
A letter with two weeks notice hand delivered to the CP.

-Keep the dirty side down
Do they let you go right away after you give notice?
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Old 04-21-2019 | 05:55 AM
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Do they let you go right away after you give notice?
I ended up working the whole two weeks but this was 7 years ago during Eagle round 1. I back then I had zero intentions of ever getting back into 121 let alone coming back to Eagle. Times and my life changed and I came back for round two. I say all this just to discourage burning a bridge.

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