Envoy 2019
04-19-2019, 03:07 PM
#931
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,512
Originally Posted by pitchattitude
Not an “extreme minority” but still a minority.
Slight majority(or slight minority, if you only count 2019) != "extreme minority".
Anyway, this is all pointless, my point was not to compare the fleets, it was simply to give a single, factual, datapoint about the current reserve time in that single fleet.
Shame people have to sh*t on such a simple post.
04-19-2019, 03:08 PM
#932
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Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 344
Originally Posted by Iflythe72
I’m pretty sure this is corrected wanted to ask for clarification. Using kcm for personal use internationally.
DFW-LHR direct cannot use kcm
DFW-JFK-LHR I could use kcm
DFW-LHR direct cannot use kcm
DFW-JFK-LHR I could use kcm
04-19-2019, 03:09 PM
#933
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,512
Originally Posted by Iflythe72
I’m pretty sure this is corrected wanted to ask for clarification. Using kcm for personal use internationally.
DFW-LHR direct cannot use kcm
DFW-JFK-LHR I could use kcm
DFW-LHR direct cannot use kcm
DFW-JFK-LHR I could use kcm
DFW-JFK-LHR you can use KCM in DFW but have to go landside and through normal security at JFK. Or go through normal security in DFW and stay airside in JFK.
04-19-2019, 03:18 PM
#934
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
Originally Posted by dera
Past 6 months, which is what I had for my timeline, with the 175-only class in December and 175 heavy-ish class end of November, 175 has been a slight majority. First of 2019, it's been a very slight minority (by the smallest possible margin).
Slight majority(or slight minority, if you only count 2019) != "extreme minority".
Anyway, this is all pointless, my point was not to compare the fleets, it was simply to give a single, factual, datapoint about the current reserve time in that single fleet.
Shame people have to sh*t on such a simple post.
Slight majority(or slight minority, if you only count 2019) != "extreme minority".
Anyway, this is all pointless, my point was not to compare the fleets, it was simply to give a single, factual, datapoint about the current reserve time in that single fleet.
Shame people have to sh*t on such a simple post.
The original post quoted by both of us was not about reserve time, but what aircraft new hires are getting.
04-19-2019, 03:23 PM
#935
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,512
Originally Posted by pitchattitude
No such thing. Just CURRENT, ACCURATE information.
The original post quoted by both of us was not about reserve time, but what aircraft new hires are getting.
The original post quoted by both of us was not about reserve time, but what aircraft new hires are getting.
That's why my original post, which started this, was simply: Currently, for May, a January hire got a CMP line on the DFW 175 FO, after spending 1 month on reserve.
The "extreme minority" BS was started after that.
04-19-2019, 07:25 PM
#936
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Joined APC: May 2017
Position: 175 CA
Posts: 1,285
Originally Posted by Iflythe72
I’m pretty sure this is corrected wanted to ask for clarification. Using kcm for personal use internationally.
DFW-LHR direct cannot use kcm
DFW-JFK-LHR I could use kcm
DFW-LHR direct cannot use kcm
DFW-JFK-LHR I could use kcm
You can't travel internationally for pleasure without first being screened by TSA, doesn't matter how far ago in your itinerary it was. Passing through KCM and traveling internationally for anything other than crew violates open skies ICAO agreements countries have with each other.
04-19-2019, 07:26 PM
#937
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Joined APC: May 2017
Position: 175 CA
Posts: 1,285
Originally Posted by dera
That was more about what your scope is. I specifically said 6 months. Fact is - past performance is not an indicator of future success in the game of Envoy New Hire Russian Roulette. Pretty solid numbers for the next class to be 175-heavy, about the same as the one last week, but after that, it's all guesswork.
That's why my original post, which started this, was simply: Currently, for May, a January hire got a CMP line on the DFW 175 FO, after spending 1 month on reserve.
The "extreme minority" BS was started after that.
That's why my original post, which started this, was simply: Currently, for May, a January hire got a CMP line on the DFW 175 FO, after spending 1 month on reserve.
The "extreme minority" BS was started after that.
The 175 fleet will always be smaller than the 145 fleet and always use less pilots (for the forseeable future).
04-20-2019, 05:04 AM
#938
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 3,694
Originally Posted by Varsity
I disagree, movement on the 145 has been clicking with a lot of upgrades. Most 2017 hires went to the 145, and they are now upgrading.
The 175 fleet will always be smaller than the 145 fleet and always use less pilots (for the forseeable future).
The 175 fleet will always be smaller than the 145 fleet and always use less pilots (for the forseeable future).
04-20-2019, 06:10 AM
#939
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 1,609
Originally Posted by Varsity
No.
You can't travel internationally for pleasure without first being screened by TSA, doesn't matter how far ago in your itinerary it was. Passing through KCM and traveling internationally for anything other than crew violates open skies ICAO agreements countries have with each other.
You can't travel internationally for pleasure without first being screened by TSA, doesn't matter how far ago in your itinerary it was. Passing through KCM and traveling internationally for anything other than crew violates open skies ICAO agreements countries have with each other.
04-20-2019, 06:52 AM
#940
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Originally Posted by Varsity
I disagree, movement on the 145 has been clicking with a lot of upgrades. Most 2017 hires went to the 145, and they are now upgrading.
The 175 fleet will always be smaller than the 145 fleet and always use less pilots (for the forseeable future).
The 175 fleet will always be smaller than the 145 fleet and always use less pilots (for the forseeable future).
Originally Posted by Cyio
Careful with that comment, you are liable to disrupt the narrative that the 145 is a purgatory hellscape. There are some here that like to remind us on a near daily basis how badly they have it.
Currently, per APC’s Envoy page:
107 140/145s
51 175s
13 CRJs
While I’m sure the number of 175s will continue to grow after the delivery of the planned 84 in more than a year, it will certainly be several years before Envoy has more 175s than 145s. And that means more 145 pilots hired than 175 pilots for several more years.
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