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Old 01-20-2019, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
Well, apart from Flexjet, who just decert'd their union...
Starting FO pay of 85k, who needs a union?
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Old 01-20-2019, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Varsity View Post
Starting FO pay of 85k, who needs a union?
Tell it to the guys who’ve been screwed over at Emirates. Big planes, kinda big paychecks, ZERO job security. Better hope you never have to make a safety judgment call...
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Old 01-20-2019, 12:01 PM
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They have me on a deadhead day one straight to the hotel. First leg is next day at 3pm. What are the rules regarding alcohol on a deadhead like this? Is it no alcohol 12 hours from the deadhead or from the first flight next day?
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Old 01-20-2019, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Varsity View Post
Starting FO pay of 85k, who needs a union?
So what is stopping you?
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Old 01-20-2019, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ParkingatMIA View Post
They have me on a deadhead day one straight to the hotel. First leg is next day at 3pm. What are the rules regarding alcohol on a deadhead like this? Is it no alcohol 12 hours from the deadhead or from the first flight next day?
Duty. Deadheads count as duty. It's also listed as training events as well which I thought was funny because the upgrade dinners were serving alcohol after the 12 hour mark lol
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Old 01-20-2019, 02:23 PM
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But I will say there are really good part 91 gigs out there (and really bad ones too).
MASSIVELY depends on your definition of "really good." I can't think of ONE among my colleagues that doesn't saddle its pilots with "extra duties," and that includes the "legendary" Coca-Cola flight department.

I was paid quite a bit when I managed and flew a company's jet. Salaries didn't get THAT much higher, and every day, year after year, it was rather strongly implied (in multiple areas of work) that I was expected to eat, sleep, and breathe my job.

This is pretty much the only place in aviation where you needn't worry about being tasked with anything but operating aircraft.

"Moderately good" corporate jobs:

Let's say you LOVE, say...being asked to help turn wrenches with mechanics after having to find a rental car to retrieve the part you you had to hunt for on Partsbase (AFTER having worked a "duty day" that's left you desolated); these jobs are ones you've snagged via a rather long investment in networking over the course of several training cycles at SimuFlite...most likely...or after being invited to lunch with the guys that X-Corp forces to come to their hangar five days a week just down the way from the Signature ramp.

In nearly EVERY case, not having the type rating for the aircraft they operate promptly removes you from all consideration.
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Old 01-20-2019, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DreadWing View Post
MASSIVELY depends on your definition of "really good." I can't think of ONE among my colleagues that doesn't saddle its pilots with "extra duties," and that includes the "legendary" Coca-Cola flight department.

I was paid quite a bit when I managed and flew a company's jet. Salaries didn't get THAT much higher, and every day, year after year, it was rather strongly implied (in multiple areas of work) that I was expected to eat, sleep, and breathe my job.

This is pretty much the only place in aviation where you needn't worry about being tasked with anything but operating aircraft.

"Moderately good" corporate jobs:

Let's say you LOVE, say...being asked to help turn wrenches with mechanics after having to find a rental car to retrieve the part you you had to hunt for on Partsbase (AFTER having worked a "duty day" that's left you desolated); these jobs are ones you've snagged via a rather long investment in networking over the course of several training cycles at SimuFlite...most likely...or after being invited to lunch with the guys that X-Corp forces to come to their hangar five days a week just down the way from the Signature ramp.

In nearly EVERY case, not having the type rating for the aircraft they operate promptly removes you from all consideration.
Sounds like you had a crappy employer.

I've flown for 2 135's and 1 91 over the past 4 years. None of them required me to do anything but operate the airplane.

I'm not a mechanic or a secretary, and they knew that.
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Old 01-20-2019, 05:12 PM
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Anyone else hear rumblings of new reserve negotiations/announcement coming soon?
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Old 01-20-2019, 05:14 PM
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Anyone else hear rumblings of new reserve negotiations/announcement coming soon?


Last I heard a couple months ago via our glamorous union that it was dead in the water and the company won’t do anything with it until they need to.
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Last I heard a couple months ago via our glamorous union that it was dead in the water and the company won’t do anything with it until they need to.
Yeah basically this. People keep coming, hell we are doing three classes a month now, so the company sees no reason to change the status quo.
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