bostonpilot55

I have class dates from both Skywest and Envoy. I’m local to the Dallas area, don’t really care about flow. It’s a tough decision between the 2. I’m looking to minimize reserve, get flight time, upgrade, and move on. Pay isnt a deal maker/breaker to me. I don’t want to commute to reserve at LGA.... If anybody has any advice I’m all ears.

To get back on topic, the envoy interview was as expected. Mostly asked trivia questions about Jepp Charts, if you seem like you’re struggling to find the answer, they’ll nudge you in the right direction. A couple of HR type questions - all of which can be found on the gouge websites. They really make it feel like they want you to succeed. Very positive experience that made me like the company. My only gripe with the interview process was the amount of waiting around on interview day. The whole process could have been condensed into 2hrs max, but instead it was drawn out to almost 8. 7 out of 7 of us received offers.

havick206

Goto Skywest then if dfw is your thing and you want to fly.

At Envoy it will take a while to get back to dfw and then take a long time to hold a line and build time.

dera

Envoy is a no-brainer if you live in DFW. The base isn't going anywhere, and there's no real long-term risk to be displaced anywhere, apart from maybe very short stints if you're unlucky.
DFW CA spots currently are 1yr 10 months for the 175, and less than a year on the 145. Reserve isn't bad if you live in base.
So you can pretty much hold DFW as a CA when you hit your 1000 hours 121, assuming you have no prior 121 time.

havick206

All based on current snapshot, not on the thousand or so ahead of a new hire.

pitchattitude

Every thing is a moving target. I would say to look elsewhere, but if you want DFW at Envoy currently your best bet as FO is 175 and when you upgrade take the 145, at least for the initial two years of seat lock. Even then DFW is, and probably always will be, way senior.

dera

Close to half of DCL's will flow in the next 2 years. I think that movement will keep a Dallas CA spot open, even though it might be in the mighty 145.
Also a bunch of growth coming up with the new 175's. I don't think a new hire has to spend much time out of DFW during their tenure here.

dera

Set your preferences right, and you probably won't have the seat lock.

"way" senior being sub-1 years for a CA. Junior CA is 2000+ seniority number.

havick206

The guy/gal said they want to fly, AND be DFW based. At Envoy a new hire won’t be able to do both given it’s the most senior base.

Just putting things in perspective.

I’ve definitely been wrong or off before, but dfw will always be the most senior envoy base regardless of attrition.

dera

It depends. For a DFL new hire, looks like it's going to be 2-3 months of reserve. That means you can fly a lot, and be DFW based.

Disclaimer: This assumes you get lucky with your class drop and get DFW 175 as an FO. Lately it's been a 60%ish chance for a new hire.
145 probably is a different story.

pitchattitude

Holding the base and flying are two different things. Yes, there have been some random relatively junior pilots get DFW as Captain on both 145 and 175. Holding a line is a LONG way off. Yes, there will be some growth on the 175 and movement on both airframes, but there are still a number of people on the CRJ that will probably flee to Dallas when they get displaced.