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Old 05-15-2019 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
Either way, awful quiet from mec, personally dont like it, and most wont like the result either.
The result being there is no result?
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Old 05-15-2019 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
Either way, awful quiet from mec, personally dont like it, and most wont like the result either.
ALPA Executive Board is this week in DC. The MEC should all be there for that. Why is everyone in such a hurry to rush into a deal? Look at the PDT thread. They’ve lost their minds.
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Old 05-15-2019 | 08:50 AM
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ALPA Executive Board is this week in DC. The MEC should all be there for that. Why is everyone in such a hurry to rush into a deal? Look at the PDT thread. They’ve lost their minds.
Because we’ve been waiting for two years now for new pay rates, we’ve watched almost every competitor pass us up in work rules and compensation. We’ve been working hard, put up with mass displacements and are ready for something good. It’s been 6 weeks since PSA got their new pay rates, that’s tens of thousands lost for our pilot group just in those weeks alone. Is not rushing it’s holding the union and company accountable, if we hadn’t there would be no negotiations even happening. We’re applying pressure, letting our voices heard, we’re fighting.
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Old 05-15-2019 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by blackbox348
Because we’ve been waiting for two years now for new pay rates, we’ve watched almost every competitor pass us up in work rules and compensation. We’ve been working hard, put up with mass displacements and are ready for something good. It’s been 6 weeks since PSA got their new pay rates, that’s tens of thousands lost for our pilot group just in those weeks alone. Is not rushing it’s holding the union and company accountable, if we hadn’t there would be no negotiations even happening. We’re applying pressure, letting our voices heard, we’re fighting.
Chill out man.

They've only met with the company for a couple hours at most. Give them some time. If we don't approve rates, the company really does have a lot to lose over time. We are only in negotiations for them because other airlines have literally forced their hand.

I have a hard time seeing AA ok with us hiring murderers and miscreants for long.
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Old 05-15-2019 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Varsity
Chill out man.

They've only met with the company for a couple hours at most. Give them some time. If we don't approve rates, the company really does have a lot to lose over time. We are only in negotiations for them because other airlines have literally forced their hand.

I have a hard time seeing AA ok with us hiring murderers and miscreants for long.
6 weeks is some time. Or are you talking about 6 years?
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Old 05-15-2019 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TeeRainPULup
6 weeks is some time. Or are you talking about 6 years?
Whatever it takes.

I stand with the union 100%.
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Old 05-15-2019 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Varsity
Whatever it takes.

I stand with the union 100%.
I would like some sort of meaningful communication rather than the "rice cake snack" emails they have been putting out.

I support my union too but there is a level of accountability that must be maintained. Remember, Jim Jones's followers stood by him 100%.
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Old 05-15-2019 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by crj700
I would like some sort of meaningful communication rather than the "rice cake snack" emails they have been putting out.

I support my union too but there is a level of accountability that must be maintained. Remember, Jim Jones's followers stood by him 100%.
More communication would be good, but it has to be metered. I don’t want to be like PDT where their people are screaming “take the money and fix the rest later” which is essentially a finger in a leaky dam. Hopefully all parties involved are staying in communication. Dera is RW’s whipping boy, so I am sure he’s passing on the mood of the group.
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Old 05-15-2019 | 10:32 AM
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Constant silence, lack of info only aids the company and puts the mec in a corner. Seems no one ever pays attention to history. Next the mec will say we have take this as is or the company walks away. That too was played in the past.
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Old 05-15-2019 | 10:48 AM
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I’d let the company walk away. PDT and PSA making 20% more with Flow. Everyone else making 15-30% more, heck Xjet is about to get ANOTHER raise. With our attrition and F9/NK going full blast this fall, they have to keep seats full. It will becoming increasingly very difficult to do so.

Pulling the cadet seniority in new hire classes would help too.
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