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Old 05-15-2019 | 05:46 PM
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Old 05-15-2019 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
Is PSA’s pay raise an LOA? Sounds to me like that is a No-Go!
Doesn’t really matter. We aren’t getting a raise. AAG is going to merge all three carriers into one 4,000 plus pilot group and call it TWAA.
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Old 05-15-2019 | 06:31 PM
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Doesn’t really matter. We aren’t getting a raise. AAG is going to merge all three carriers into one 4,000 plus pilot group and call it TWAA.
Never happen. They need at least two to Whipsaw. I could see PDT getting merged to ENY or PSA. ENY because of the 145 economies of scale, PSA to keep the size balanced.
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Old 05-15-2019 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
Never happen. They need at least two to Whipsaw. I could see PDT getting merged to ENY or PSA. ENY because of the 145 economies of scale, PSA to keep the size balanced.
I think we're on the verge of seeing PDT merged with someone. It's the only way I can reconcile AAG going to PSA first when PDT was the one in the worst shape hiring wise. I'd like to see the wording of the new PSA agreement. We know it's a 'blended rate'... does adding a bunch of 50 seat aircraft lower that rate all of a sudden? We don't know the wording of what OUR MEC and Envoy management are looking at... I hope our MEC is paying attention.
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Old 05-15-2019 | 06:47 PM
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I think we're on the verge of seeing PDT merged with someone. It's the only way I can reconcile AAG going to PSA first when PDT was the one in the worst shape hiring wise. I'd like to see the wording of the new PSA agreement. We know it's a 'blended rate'... does adding a bunch of 50 seat aircraft lower that rate all of a sudden? We don't know the wording of what OUR MEC and Envoy management are looking at... I hope our MEC is paying attention.
Yeah, they'll give us a blended rate that looks good until they **** us with another 60 50 seaters from a Piedmont merger.

I can see it now.
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Old 05-15-2019 | 07:00 PM
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Yeah, they'll give us a blended rate that looks good until they **** us with another 60 50 seaters from a Piedmont merger.

I can see it now.
Hey! Y'all don say that!
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Old 05-15-2019 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Varsity
Yeah, they'll give us a blended rate that looks good until they **** us with another 60 50 seaters from a Piedmont merger.

I can see it now.
None of this blended rate or pay bands cr@?.
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Old 05-15-2019 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
personally dont like it, and most wont like the result either.
What are you even talking about? Do you even know anymore?
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Old 05-16-2019 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
More communication would be good, but it has to be metered. I don’t want to be like PDT where their people are screaming “take the money and fix the rest later” which is essentially a finger in a leaky dam. Hopefully all parties involved are staying in communication. Dera is RW’s whipping boy, so I am sure he’s passing on the mood of the group.
Most of the people screaming “take the money” in that thread aren’t even at PDT. It’s almost an information campaign going on to undermine the Piedmont Union in hope of weakening Envoys position by having PDT match PSAs terms... A bunch of posters are PSA, some are former PDT who are personal friends of members of management.

The ones who are at PDT and wanking are short timers looking pad their bank accounts before they leave by the end of the year.
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Old 05-16-2019 | 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
I think we're on the verge of seeing PDT merged with someone. It's the only way I can reconcile AAG going to PSA first when PDT was the one in the worst shape hiring wise. I'd like to see the wording of the new PSA agreement. We know it's a 'blended rate'... does adding a bunch of 50 seat aircraft lower that rate all of a sudden? We don't know the wording of what OUR MEC and Envoy management are looking at... I hope our MEC is paying attention.
They approached PSA first to get a deal done creating pressure on the rest of the WO. By comparison their QOL over at PSA is better compared to Envoy or PDT so they didn't feel the need to try to fight for improvement when presented with what they thought was a take it or leave it offer.

And Jerry Glass...that guy... He was the consultant AA hired during the 2013-2014 contract fight. He is a pitbull. Coined Comair II and excelled at putting downward pressure on the pilot group. F & H solutions is his labor "relations" company.
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