Poor Union Communication
05-16-2019 | 03:23 AM
#191
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05-16-2019 | 04:02 AM
#192
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Apparently our management is lying to our new hires in class on day 1 of indoc. They are telling them explicitly that the company wants to give us raises and ALPA is standing in the way of that. The only way ALPA could be standing in the way of raises is if they come with concessions elsewhere. If these raises were clean, the company would have our MEC signing off in a heartbeat. Also, that several members of management are running around saying that the Compass planes are coming here for sure. Done deal, just no dates yet.
Heard from the crew roominati in DFW yesterday.
Heard from the crew roominati in DFW yesterday.
05-16-2019 | 04:12 AM
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Apparently our management is lying to our new hires in class on day 1 of indoc. They are telling them explicitly that the company wants to give us raises and ALPA is standing in the way of that. The only way ALPA could be standing in the way of raises is if they come with concessions elsewhere. If these raises were clean, the company would have our MEC signing off in a heartbeat. Also, that several members of management are running around saying that the Compass planes are coming here for sure. Done deal, just no dates yet.
Heard from the crew roominati in DFW yesterday.
Heard from the crew roominati in DFW yesterday.
05-16-2019 | 05:12 AM
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The MEC and ALPA National need to make sure that the deal is fiscally sound, whatever supposed "deal" you are referring to. If the company is valuing it at say $25, but the union is valuing it at $15, then something is wrong and the playing field needs to be leveled so that the money matches.
You will be the first one to start *****ing if the union accepts a deal and it turns out to be less than you thought or worse, had to give something up to get it.
You came here knowing the rates of pay and they were good enough for you then, just be patient and let the process work itself out. It is in the companies best interest to make the process quick, not ours.
05-16-2019 | 05:33 AM
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I agree somewhat. I'd like to see more emails maybe very high level leaving out any details but to keep us better updated as to the progress of the meetings. Just saying we are meeting leaves so much in the air.
05-16-2019 | 06:05 AM
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And then we get things like of Facebook where a DFW captain declared that she wanted the raise and would give up OT and other things because “I don’t pick up OT so I don’t care.” Unfortunately we work with a lot of people who are woefully uneducated when it comes to labor negotiations. Having a comm saying that we are meeting and trying to value the deal means exactly that. Two parties have two sets of numbers and we have to wait for a middle ground to be found. What if we were offered a deal that is valued at what PSA got? We are a much larger group and would be getting less per pilot. I’m ok with waiting as long as it takes for this to be done right. Some back pay will help out everyone at ease when it’s all done, the more the better.
05-16-2019 | 06:13 AM
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Apparently our management is lying to our new hires in class on day 1 of indoc. They are telling them explicitly that the company wants to give us raises and ALPA is standing in the way of that. The only way ALPA could be standing in the way of raises is if they come with concessions elsewhere. If these raises were clean, the company would have our MEC signing off in a heartbeat. Also, that several members of management are running around saying that the Compass planes are coming here for sure. Done deal, just no dates yet.
Heard from the crew roominati in DFW yesterday.
Heard from the crew roominati in DFW yesterday.
